Rev. Jim Wallis speaks with Rev. Wes Granberg-Michaelson about his latest book, Without Oars: Casting Off Into a Life of Pilgrimage. Rev. Wes Granberg-Michaelson shares ways people of faith can embrace the journey through the unknown and the uncomfortable as a way of life.

"We are so prone to planning and control, to wanting outcomes. But there are times when we have to step out without knowing and having any assurance of what the outcome will be and opening the space where we can ask the questions that we most need to ask. One of the questions I love and share is: Why are you who you are, where you are?"

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