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Jason Michael Perry is the Founder & Chief AI Officer at PerryLabs, a consulting company helping businesses navigate the AI landscape. He's the former CEO of mygroove and author of "The AI Evolution: The Role of the Chief AI Officer." Based in Baltimore, MD, Jason has eight years of experience in technology leadership and hosts the "Thoughts on Tech & Things" podcast.
Key Topics CoveredThe AI Revolution Context
The Death of Traditional Search
Discovery in the AI Era
Action Steps for Business Owners
The Blue-Collar Impact
Technology Optimism
Real-World Examples
"Right now we're in the AOL days of AI. We're in the time as if you were talking about the internet before Amazon and e-commerce has been defined."
"This is the infancy of this cycle that we're gonna be on and just like AOL, which was a huge company doesn't exist today, who knows what the next company's gonna be over the next 50 years."
"Have you ChatGPT yourself? Have you looked at yourself in Perplexity? Have you looked for your business on Claude?"
"Relying on Google to be the saving Grace for your business is like relying on the Yellow Pages to be the thing that's gonna continue to drive traffic to your business."
"This is that opportunity to be number one in ChatGPT while your other competitors aren't even thinking about it."
Resources MentionedBlake Grissom - Charleston, South Carolina
James Wolfgang Kuntz - Austin, Texas
1. The Retail Roofing Shift
2. Current CRM Limitations
3. The Need for Diversification
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00:00:00 - Introduction and welcome
00:00:33 - Meet Doug C Brown (not the hockey player!)
00:01:26 - Recent health scare and fresh perspective on life
00:03:44 - Connection to Tony Robbins background
00:04:24 - Official title: President of Sales and Training for Tony Robbins
00:04:40 - Managing 166 people at Robbins organization
00:04:47 - How Tony Robbins' cassette tapes changed Doug's life
00:06:01 - First meeting with Tony Robbins at the Biltmore Hotel
00:06:40 - Winning a raffle invitation and guest speakers (Harvey Mackay, Tony Robbins)
00:07:40 - The bodyguard incident - trying to meet Tony
00:08:13 - Finding Tony in the courtyard - the chance encounter
00:09:01 - Making Tony laugh and the famous shoulder punch
00:10:00 - The brilliant bouquet of flowers strategy
00:11:00 - Tony calling Doug out at the 5,000+ person event
00:11:52 - Beginning work with Chet Holmes in the chat homes industry
00:12:30 - Becoming #1 coach at $65K/month (vs $10K average)
00:13:12 - Tony Robbins and Chet Holmes companies merging
00:13:33 - The Las Vegas boardroom meeting with 40 people
00:13:46 - Improving closing rates from 17.8% to 43.2%
00:14:00 - Front-end sales improvement from 12.7% to 21.2%
00:14:32 - Company growth 10x during tenure
00:14:48 - Working with major corporations (Procter & Gamble, CBS, Enterprise, CBRE)
00:15:40 - The $400,000 building renovation story
00:16:00 - CRITICAL POINT: Not one contractor followed up or asked for referrals
00:17:26 - Exploiting notable client relationships
00:17:46 - Importance of systematic, predictable processes
00:18:40 - Response to impressive Tony Robbins story and internal company results
00:19:02 - Working across 352 industries
00:19:33 - 30+ years of formal consulting experience
00:19:39 - All businesses are fundamentally the same
00:20:27 - The math and metrics most businesses ignore
00:21:02 - List of home services companies worked with
00:21:28 - Working with Long Home and Fence (Maryland)
00:22:10 - Consulting vs. coaching vs. advisory work
00:23:16 - Finding ideal right-fit buyers
00:23:43 - Common optimization points missing in businesses
00:24:42 - CBS Television case study - selling like the 1950s
00:25:01 - Intuit case study - $100M division turnaround
00:25:41 - Company growth from $48M to $110M in 2 years
00:26:00 - Childhood limiting beliefs and mindset work
00:26:40 - Client example: first paid-in-full sale
00:27:18 - Why clients pay more attention when they pay upfront
00:27:36 - Personal music background story and limiting beliefs
00:29:11 - Barry Goudreau from Boston encouraging music school
00:29:36 - Acceptance to Berklee College of Music
00:30:04 - The thermostat metaphor for business growth
00:31:17 - Current socioeconomic challenges and market conditions
00:32:00 - KEY ADVICE: Massive prospecting during economic uncertainty
00:33:00 - Understanding your ideal right-fit buyer
00:33:18 - What happens when the economy tightens
00:34:38 - CRITICAL INSIGHT: Businesses pull back on sales and marketing (the kiss of death)
00:35:15 - The four seasons economic cycle
00:35:58 - Push forward to gain market share when competitors retreat
00:37:00 - Mind flow component stops business execution
00:37:46 - Tony Robbins' business mastery event story
00:38:00 - "You ARE your business" - performance tied to thinking
00:38:26 - Tony Robbins as best salesperson on the planet
00:39:00 - Ken's company experience - being up when others are down
00:40:02 - Right place, right time in the game
00:40:40 - Zoom example - pandemic economic shift
00:41:33 - Jason's Deli case study - calling on corporations
00:42:00 - 30% business increase in six months
00:42:28 - Cookie strategy - additional 8% bump
00:43:05 - Building brand presence through PR
00:43:30 - Advice works in every economic downturn
00:44:04 - Business as a game with rules
00:44:22 - The complete flow formula breakdown
00:45:21 - NLP certification and mindset importance
00:46:22 - Successful people constantly work on themselves
00:47:03 - Brian Scudamore (1-800-GOT-JUNK) and PR strategy
00:47:36 - Resolving problems with new thinking levels
00:48:05 - Where to find Doug C Brown
00:49:03 - Email and social media contacts
00:49:40 - Newsletter signup (highly recommended)
00:50:28 - Doug's interest in reconnecting about Long Home and Fence
00:51:00 - Final wisdom: Napoleon Hill quote - mind can conceive, believe, and achieve
00:51:21 - Things take longer and cost more than expected
00:51:38 - Closing and thank you
Guest: Taylor Baires
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00:00 - Introduction and Welcome
00:42 - Meet Taylor Baires and pronunciation guide
01:00 - Taylor's roofing company: Varadero Roofing Group
01:27 - Storm chasing consulting and recent South Carolina trip
02:15 - Women in the roofing industry discussion
02:30 - The unfair advantage women have in door-to-door sales
03:30 - Why homeowners trust women at the door more
04:18 - Taylor's origin story: Born into the industry
05:00 - Growing up on construction job sites
05:12 - Father's influence and learning hard work early
06:20 - Sweeping parking lots and earning money as a kid
06:55 - Father's GC business and local market focus
07:30 - Growing up hating storm chasers
08:00 - How Taylor became a storm chaser herself
08:40 - Current consulting approach and client relationships
09:20 - Consulting services: Training vs. hands-on work
09:50 - Why fresh storms are "like a candy store"
10:15 - Retail training makes storm restoration easy
11:40 - True retail selling vs. offering cheap alternatives
12:40 - Getting retail vs. storm experience first
13:05 - Taking over Varadero Roofing Group in 2020
14:00 - Previous career as correctional officer
15:00 - Why construction welcomes people with any background
15:40 - The future of insurance restoration
16:05 - Florida's insurance crisis and rising deductibles
17:10 - Self-insurance trends in Florida
17:30 - How to connect with Taylor for consulting services
18:00 - Importance of investing in multiple training programs
18:30 - Contact information and social media
19:10 - Closing remarks
Host: Ken Baden - CEO of Baden Consulting and Potomac Custom Remodeling
Guest: Brian Seidensticker - Chief Executive Officer, Tax Sale Resources, Inc.
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Episode Context: This is Ken Baden's first episode back after the birth of his first child (three weeks old at recording). Ken jokes about being in "zombie mode" throughout the episode.
Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction & Welcome Back "Post-Baby Baden"
0:46 - New Dad Life: Zombie Mode & Unpredictable Sleep Schedules
2:04 - Parenting Advice: Everything is a Phase
3:44 - Introducing Brian Seidensticker & Getting Started
3:53 - Brian's Background: From Aerospace Engineer to Real Estate
5:20 - The Breaking Point: Government Red Tape & Six-Week Vacation Epiphany
6:22 - Getting Into House Flipping (2005-2008)
6:44 - Discovery of Tax Liens Through Personal Experience in Montana
7:28 - Building the Original Tax Sale Resources Platform
8:17 - Transitioning from Investor to Platform Provider
9:15 - Business Model Comparison: Similar to Leap's Journey
10:08 - Solving Industry Inefficiencies
10:20 - Understanding the Client Base: Tax Lien vs Tax Deed Investors
11:30 - What Tax Sale Properties Actually Look Like (HGTV Reality)
12:28 - The Foreclosure Process Explained
13:42 - The Platform: "Zillow for Distressed Real Estate"
15:12 - Mountain North Capital: The Profit-Sharing Fund
16:35 - How the Capital Partnership Structure Works (Not a Lender)
17:17 - Current Market Conditions & Tax Lien Property Trends
18:00 - Are We in a Recession? Economic Analysis
19:15 - Finding Opportunity in Market Volatility
20:20 - Commercial to Residential Conversion: The Next Big Opportunity
21:56 - Current Economic Outlook & Federal Reserve Decisions
23:20 - Inflation vs Housing Demand: The Fed's Dilemma
24:12 - Predictions: Rate Cuts & Housing Market Impact
24:56 - Interest Rate Discussion: Quarter Point Drops
25:42 - Growth Plans & Supreme Court Case Impacts on Tax Deed States
26:47 - Growing Pains as "Fun, Cool Problems to Solve"
27:03 - Biggest Industry Challenge: Negative Perception & Media Coverage
28:26 - The Truth About Tax Sales & Community Benefits
29:22 - Contact Information & Real Human Support (No AI Yet)
30:30 - AI Discussion: Tool vs Replacement for Humans
31:23 - Final Advice for Entrepreneurs: Be Persistent & Dream Big
33:12 - The Importance of Dreaming Big to Achieve Big
34:25 - Bonus Advice: Celebrating Wins & Avoiding Burnout
35:42 - Closing Remarks & Baden Consulting Services Information
36:14 - Outro
Takeaways:
TAKE YOUR BUSINESS TO THE NEXT LEVEL BOOK A FREE CONSULATION CALL NOW!
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About Me: Ken Baden - Business Growth Consultant
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💼 8-figure business owner in roofing, sales, door-to-door, and consulting.
🌐 Founder of Baden Consulting, helping entrepreneurs build and scale profitable home improvement and roofing businesses.
🚀 Join me for expert strategies on sales, leadership, and business growth—where grit meets smart execution.
🎥 Subscribe for real-world insights, proven tactics, and success stories from the field!
Follow me on social:
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@kenbaden
Facebook: www.facebook.com/officialkenbaden
Instagram: www.Instagram.com/officialkenbaden
Tiktok: www.tiktok.com/officialkenbaden
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kennethbaden
Websites:
www.badenconsulting.net
https://thekitchentablepodcast.net/
Guests:
Jonathan Bannister
IG: @jonathanismarketing
https://www.topservdigital.com/
https://homeservicehustle.com/
Sam Wakefield
IG: @therealcloseitnow
www.closeitnow.net
Takeaways
• The Power of Personal Presentation
• AI as a Personal Style Assistant: Taelor AI
• Sustainability Through Rental
• The Entrepreneurial Focus on Pain Points
• Unique Data is King in the AI Era
• Strategic Expansion & Licensing
• Self-Belief is Paramount
TAKE YOUR BUSINESS TO THE NEXT LEVEL BOOK A FREE CONSULATION CALL NOW!
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https://badenconsulting.net/dominate
About Me: Ken Baden - Business Growth Consultant
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💼 8-figure business owner in roofing, sales, door-to-door, and consulting.
🌐 Founder of Baden Consulting, helping entrepreneurs build and scale profitable home improvement and roofing businesses.
🚀 Join me for expert strategies on sales, leadership, and business growth—where grit meets smart execution.
🎥 Subscribe for real-world insights, proven tactics, and success stories from the field!
Follow me on social:
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@kenbaden
Facebook: www.facebook.com/officialkenbaden
Instagram: www.Instagram.com/officialkenbaden
Tiktok: www.tiktok.com/officialkenbaden
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kennethbaden
Websites:
www.badenconsulting.net
https://thekitchentablepodcast.net/
Guest:
https://www.instagram.com/anyacheng_siliconvalley/
Website: https://taelor.style/
https://www.instagram.com/taelor.style/
TAKE YOUR BUSINESS TO THE NEXT LEVEL BOOK A FREE CONSULATION CALL NOW!
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https://badenconsulting.net/dominate
About Me: Ken Baden - Business Growth Consultant
********************************
💼 8-figure business owner in roofing, sales, door-to-door, and consulting.
🌐 Founder of Baden Consulting, helping entrepreneurs build and scale profitable home improvement and roofing businesses.
🚀 Join me for expert strategies on sales, leadership, and business growth—where grit meets smart execution.
🎥 Subscribe for real-world insights, proven tactics, and success stories from the field!
Follow me on social:
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@kenbaden
Facebook: www.facebook.com/officialkenbaden
Instagram: www.Instagram.com/officialkenbaden
Tiktok: www.tiktok.com/officialkenbaden
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kennethbaden
Websites:
www.badenconsulting.net
https://thekitchentablepodcast.net/
Guest:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtissprouse/
TAKE YOUR BUSINESS TO THE NEXT LEVEL BOOK A FREE CONSULATION CALL NOW!
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https://badenconsulting.net/dominate
About Me: Ken Baden - Business Growth Consultant
********************************
💼 8-figure business owner in roofing, sales, door-to-door, and consulting.
🌐 Founder of Baden Consulting, helping entrepreneurs build and scale profitable home improvement and roofing businesses.
🚀 Join me for expert strategies on sales, leadership, and business growth—where grit meets smart execution.
🎥 Subscribe for real-world insights, proven tactics, and success stories from the field!
Follow me on social:
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@kenbaden
Facebook: www.facebook.com/officialkenbaden
Instagram: www.Instagram.com/officialkenbaden
Tiktok: www.tiktok.com/officialkenbaden
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kennethbaden
Websites:
www.badenconsulting.net
https://thekitchentablepodcast.net/
Guest:
https://www.facebook.com/marc.mawhinney
www.thecoachingjungle.com
Consistency trumps short-term virality. Most content creators in the roofing industry give up early due to lack of immediate validation.
Reputation > Reach. Being authentic and honest over time builds a longer-lasting and more respected brand.
Contractor Directorii was born from Dmitry’s frustration with unethical practices in the contractor space — aiming to create transparency and trust.
Content is not optional — it’s the new business card. Contractors must create content to establish authority and grow their brand.
Networking is currency. Even unpaid podcasting builds valuable relationships that can open major business opportunities.
Roofing influencers aren't just for show — the best ones, like Dmitry, also build real solutions and lead by example.
TAKE YOUR BUSINESS TO THE NEXT LEVEL BOOK A FREE CONSULATION CALL NOW!
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https://badenconsulting.net/dominate
About Me: Ken Baden - Business Growth Consultant
********************************
💼 8-figure business owner in roofing, sales, door-to-door, and consulting.
🌐 Founder of Baden Consulting, helping entrepreneurs build and scale profitable home improvement and roofing businesses.
🚀 Join me for expert strategies on sales, leadership, and business growth—where grit meets smart execution.
🎥 Subscribe for real-world insights, proven tactics, and success stories from the field!
Follow me on social:
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@kenbaden
Facebook: www.facebook.com/officialkenbaden
Instagram: www.Instagram.com/officialkenbaden
Tiktok: www.tiktok.com/officialkenbaden
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kennethbaden
Websites:
www.badenconsulting.net
https://thekitchentablepodcast.net/
Guest:
https://dmitrylipinskiy.com/
https://www.instagram.com/dmitrylipinskiy/
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