What does Musk, father of 14, expect from his “legion” of children? We unravel his quest for genetic optimization, including alleged embryo screening, and his pronatalist views. And we hear from his estranged daughter, Vivian. 

Voices in this episode include:

• Julia Black, journalist who broke the story about Musk’s twins with Shivon Zilis.
• Vivian Wilson, Elon Musk's estranged daughter (archival/podcast clip)
• Dvija Mehta, ethicist working on emerging technologies.

Topics in this episode include:

• Elon Musk's 14 children and views on pronatalism, dysgenics, embryo screening, IVF (in vitro fertilization), surrogacy and genetic optimization (via Orchid)
• The film Idiocracy and its influence on Musk
• Elon Musk’s trans daughter Vivian Wilson, on her transition, estranged relationship with her father, and reaction to his public statement that she was killed by the "woke mind virus"
• Neuralink and Brain-Computer Interfaces (BCI), Nolan Arbaugh’s experimental surgery, and ethical concerns over thought privacy and “cyborg” rhetoric