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Andy and Dasa continue their exploration into the usefulness of goals. They use another poem from Mary Oliver, "The Summer Day," to help provide another perspective that could give another way to go about things other than going after your goals.
Peter Donahue joins Andy to tell the story of junior golf in Evanston over the past 10 years. He tells the story about the divine intervention that got him to Canal Shores, the early days of a junior golf program, and how the program grew. They then cover Evanston's last 3 years at State. They end with a discussion about how impactful this team was to Peter and how it serves as a victory lap for his coaching journey.
Dasa and Andy turn to poetry by Mary Oliver for guidance in golf and life.
Dasa and Andy finish their discussion on goals. They bring in help from past theories Byron Katie, and Golf Without Why. What if this were your last round of golf?
Dasa begins the show by sharing about her time in court. Then Andy shares his newest theory about how goals might actually be bad, and the two have a lively discussion about goals and their pros and cons.
In a follow up to the Mid-Am episode, Dasa shares her takeaways from a tough round.
Dasa shares her story about her experience at the 2026 USGA Women's Mid-Am at Montclair Golf Club.
Dasa joins Andy and tells the story about qualifying for the US Mid-Am with 11 clubs. She shares about her decision, and they discuss benefits of playing with fewer clubs and how it could help everyone's game.
Dasa joins Andy to recap his trip to Sand Valley playing hickory golf. He discusses that he will continue playing the clubs because they helped him find more magic, meaning, and significance in his golf. They also discuss if it is possible to bring this magic to the modern game.
On the drive home from Sand Valley Andy and Jantzen recap their hickory matches at Sand Valley. They discuss adjusting to the clubs, competing with hickories, and the differences between playing with hickory and modern equipment.
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