With the (yes, weird to make it a footnote but) footnote that the global environmental, cultural, social and real human costs of AI are massive, today we are zeroing in on just one question about AI: the impact of AI on kids and parents. How will the coming ubiquity of AI tools in our homes, schools and workplaces impact child development, parenthood and the world our children will inherit in their adulthood?

Our guest today is Doctor Dana Suskind, founder and Co-Director of the a Center for Early Learning + Public Health at the University of Chicago, Founding Director of the Pediatric Cochlear Implant Program, and Professor of Surgery, Pediatrics, and Public Policy at the University of Chicago. She is the author of “Thirty Million Words: Building a Child’s Brain” and “Parent Nation: Unlocking Every Child’s Potential, Fulfilling Society’s Promise.” Her next book, on AI and early childhood development, will be published by Penguin Dutton in the Fall of 2026.

In this meaty episode, we talk to Dr. Suskind about about how using AI impacts our minds and how she is thinking about its influence on developing brains in particular. What do we know right now about what happens when kids interact with AI?

From the episode:

“The vast majority of brain development happens, some 90 % happens within the first five years of life, and it is almost entirely dependent on their exposure to language and nurturing interaction. That’s what wires up the brain. We call it serve and return between caregiver and child. Nurturing interaction builds the social brain, and our ability as humans to connect. What does it mean when all of a sudden you have AI tools that want to step in and take over some of those serve and return? Infants’ learn not from perfect interaction, they learn from the imperfect. From that emotionally rich dance between parent and caregiver — those slight mismatches, our imperfect parenting. It’s actually biologically required to [help our children] become human that we are imperfect. This is an important moment. A.I. could fundamentally change who we are if we’re not careful.” - Dr. Dana Suskind

Two Princeton professors wrote in a paper on AI recently that AI will “supercharge capitalism.” Will AI also supercharge what is expected from us as humans, and as parents? If we want to insulate our kids from this technological moment, but we also want to raise nimble, adaptable kids who can get jobs in a world where using AI will be a must-have skill, how can we think about this cultural and practical tension in the context of parenthood without having a panic attack?

Dr. Suskind helps us think through this rapidly evolving moment with clarity and humor, and she shares a simple strategy from her forthcoming book that Sarah and I will definitely be implementing ASAP.

Links:

* Dr. Dana Suskind

* UNICEF and World Economic Forum paper: Children and AI: What are the opportunities and risks?

* Empire of AI by Karen Hao

* Your brain on AI (MIT study on ChatGPT’s impact on learning)

* Miranda on AI and kids in The Atlantic

* AI and colonialism (supertopic at MIT)

* Brian Scassellati, Ph.D. at the Yale Robotics lab

* Wait Until 8th pledge

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To celebrate ADHD Awareness Month, Sarah is doing a little read aloud for us. Her essay, Call Me By My Name: How I Studied ADHD for 15 Years and Didn’t Know I Had It, remains one of the most read pieces on her newsletter. Listen to an audio recording of the essay — about identity, relationships, and what getting a diagnosis does and doesn’t do for us — read by Sarah.

Links:

* Call Me By My Name on Mompsreading

Sarah and Miranda are joined by Taylor Harris, the author of a new column, You’ve Always Been This Way, about her later-in-life AuDHD diagnosis. We talk Autistic burnout, empathy for the neurotypical parent, the Enneagram, RFK, and sneaker deals.

Links:

* Taylor’s column (McSweeney’s)

* This Boy We Made (Taylor’s book on our Bookshop storefront)

* Holotropic Breathwork

* Climbing inside a Tauntaun

* Spoon Instagram

* Celebrity Height Instagram

* Follow Taylor on Instagram

Hey hey paid subscribers! This one is for you! It’s just the two of us, today, your trusty hosts with the mosts, Sarah Wheeler and Miranda Rake, chatting about what’s on our parent-minds. We meander our way into deep and not-so-deep topics like: Self-perception, dirty floors, recent parenting challenges, neurodiversity, personal values and personal spac…

Sarah and Miranda talk to journalist Abigail Leonard, author of Four Mothers: An Intimate Journey Through the First Year of Parenthood in Four Countries, about the social, cultural, and political forces that shape what it unfolds when women become mothers in Kenya, Finland, Japan, and the U.S. Would Leonard have had a third child if she hadn’t been living in Japan at the time? What is it about Finland that makes an ambivalent dad stick around? We explore what’s harder, what’s different, and what seems to be universal about motherhood in four very different societies.

Show Links:

* Buy Four Mothers in our Bookshop

* Abigail on Instagram

* Helpful Tips from a Parent with Covid

* It Feels Like Every Mom I Know is Medicated in Romper

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Kathryn Van Arendonk is a critic at New York Magazine who writes about TV and comedy, and I (Miranda) have loved her work for a long time. I was watching a lot of Bluey when I first started realizing that all my favorite TV reviews on New York Magazine’s Vulture site were written by the same person, and that person was Kathryn! It felt like magic when she started writing about Bluey and like even MORE magic when Kathryn announced that she will be writing a book (a “cultural deep-dive”) about Bluey that will be out in 2027. She’s currently elbow-deep in Bluey research and she joined us to explore the phenomenon that is Bluey, to answer all our questions about Bluey creator Joe Brumm (like has he left the show?? is Bluey about to be ensh•ttified??) and more.

Links:

* Lev Vygotsky

* Kathryn’s Joe Brumm profile for New York Magazine

* The Bluey house Airbnb

* Waldorf education

* Rudolf Stiener

* Beginners Mind

* The Daniel Tiger Conspiracy subreddit

* Grizzy and the Lemmings

* Steven Universe

* Hilda

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One last summer check-in to tide us all over until Season 3! Sarah and Miranda dive into the chaos and comedy of back-to-school season, teen babysitter economics, toy gun ethics, and of course, the emotional calculus of modern parenting (and Miranda accidentally makes Sarah cry). We unpack whether Stepbrothers is misogyny at its most insidious, why we are selling kids pink AK-47s, our crone fantasies, and the weird beauty of watching your kids become people.

Not relevant to the episode at all, but relevant generally:

Links

* Tilt by Emma Pattee

* The Family Fang by Kevin Wilson

* Eligible by Curtis Sittenfeld

* Four Mothers by Abilgail Leonard

* Elena Ferrante

* Miranda ’s gun toys piece

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Hi! We’re alive out here! (Whether we are truly more alive than usual or merely feeling like we should be because it’s summer remains unclear.) Tune in for a meandering summer catch up between seasons in which we cover vacation nonsense (like asking for an hour to yourself and then waiting for someone to offer it to you), summer illness, whether or not it’s a good idea to throw your phone into the river, a little bit of camp gossip and more. We’re also letting you see our faces, because apparently the internet hates words now and video is all that is real. Or something. Anyway, we’re trying it out!

Please note: Like all great things mothers create, this episode is interrupted briefly in the middle by a child screaming that their episode has ended.

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Today, we’re kicking off our summer bonus episodes with a little ode to sidewalk art installations! We’re not just talking about little free libraries (though those are awesome!) we’re talking about the weird, wild and creative ways people express themselves and spread joy through artistic, playful, interactive installations on their sidewalks, stoops and fences, and the unique, important role these little joy blips have in building stronger communities.

I first stumbled across the PDX Dinorama Instagram account, run by Portland’s Rachael Harms Malant, during the pandemic. The account didn’t just promote the little Dinorama she built in front of her house, it was more like a record of all the little fun and funky sidewalk installations that are speckled around the city. From PDX Sidewalk Ducks to a 6-hole golf course that someone built in their front yard, the installations Rachael was highlighting on her account went way above and beyond anything I’d seen, and with little kids to get out of the house and little money to spend, I was so grateful for every last one of them. I’ve been wanting to have her on the show for ages to talk about her passion for these little expressions of joy and welcome that pepper our city (and are popping up around the world now), and I am so thrilled to have her episode kick off some summer MOFITA fun.

Chatting with Rachael was seriously heart-warming summer fun, and we hope you’ll tune in! In in the episode, she shares tips for creating your own little sidewalk joy invitation, and she has tons of examples and tutorials on her Instagram page, too.

But, all you really need to do to get inspired is head outside on a walk, especially if you’re lucky enough to live in a town with folks on the sidewalk joy map. As Rachael explains in the episode:

“People are craving community, and community is — and is going to continue to be — so very important for all of us. So this kind of connecting and sharing that Sidewalk Joy helps promote in different communities is going to continue to be vital.”

If you walk around your neighborhood and don’t see any little mini-fig galleries, dinoramas or take-a-car-leave-a-cars, maybe your could be the first!

LINKS

* The Portland Sidewalk Joy map

* The Worldwide Sidewalk Joy map

* Rachael’s sidewalk joy creation tips + ideas

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It’s a just-the-two-of-us episode for our beautiful paid subscribers. We chat about the parenting books currently in our TBR piles (so many good books on motherhood lately, so little time) and the ones we’re most obsessed with, the pitfalls of comparing ourselves to Ursula K. LeGuin, making peace with not being a person who writes a slew of culture-chan…