The New Stack Podcast

Maybe there is no single path to DevOps nirvana, and no one way of implementing continuous integration. That's the eye-opening conclusion reached by Dr. Nicole Forsgren, founder and CEO of DevOps Research and Assessment, LLC, in a wide-ranging conversation with The New Stack Scott Fulton at PagerDuty Summit 2017 in San Francisco.

Technology such as serverless architecture, she said, may very well abstract away the details of operations from the task of software development. But if it all ends up delivering positive value for the customer in the end, Dr. Forsgren asks, then who cares how or why? The co-author of the State of DevOps report, published annually by Puppet, goes so far as to suggest that for any two organizations, DevOps may not have one state.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/6-QG12yOZmc

Maybe there is no single path to DevOps nirvana, and no one way of implementing continuous integration. That's the eye-opening conclusion reached by Dr. Nicole Forsgren, founder and CEO of DevOps Research and Assessment, LLC, in a wide-ranging conversation with The New Stack Scott Fulton at PagerDuty Summit 2017 in San Francisco.

Technology such as serverless architecture, she said, may very well abstract away the details of operations from the task of software development. But if it all ends up delivering positive value for the customer in the end, Dr. Forsgren asks, then who cares how or why? The co-author of the State of DevOps report, published annually by Puppet, goes so far as to suggest that for any two organizations, DevOps may not have one state.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/6-QG12yOZmc

As open source gains momentum, Cloud Foundry focuses on its users, citing that 40% of them are in fact end users. In a livestreamed episode of The New Stack Makers with TNS Founder Alex Williams at Cloud Foundry Summit Europe, Cloud Foundry Executive Director Abby Kearns explained that Cloud Foundry aims to continue to evolve its technology to benefit their goals when working with the Cloud Foundry platform.

For some organizations working outside of Silicon Valley, there is a vast shortage of developer talent to choose from. Kearns explained that today's organizations outside of technology hubs such as San Francisco have taken a proactive learning approach to help bring their new and current developers up-to-speed with the demands of today's cloud-native software platforms.

“For each of these companies that are becoming software companies, they’re trying to find out, where do they find that talent?” Kearns said, adding that, “We’re seeing a lot of companies invest in training and re-training people, teaching them to be cloud-native developers and I think that is the most fascinating piece of all this.”

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch7VKy-GgWo

As open source gains momentum, Cloud Foundry focuses on its users, citing that 40% of them are in fact end users. In a livestreamed episode of The New Stack Makers with TNS Founder Alex Williams at Cloud Foundry Summit Europe, Cloud Foundry Executive Director Abby Kearns explained that Cloud Foundry aims to continue to evolve its technology to benefit their goals when working with the Cloud Foundry platform.

For some organizations working outside of Silicon Valley, there is a vast shortage of developer talent to choose from. Kearns explained that today's organizations outside of technology hubs such as San Francisco have taken a proactive learning approach to help bring their new and current developers up-to-speed with the demands of today's cloud-native software platforms.

“For each of these companies that are becoming software companies, they’re trying to find out, where do they find that talent?” Kearns said, adding that, “We’re seeing a lot of companies invest in training and re-training people, teaching them to be cloud-native developers and I think that is the most fascinating piece of all this.”

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch7VKy-GgWo

As open source gains momentum, Cloud Foundry focuses on its users, citing that 40% of them are in fact end users. In a livestreamed episode of The New Stack Makers with TNS Founder Alex Williams at Cloud Foundry Summit Europe, Cloud Foundry Executive Director Abby Kearns explained that Cloud Foundry aims to continue to evolve its technology to benefit their goals when working with the Cloud Foundry platform.

For some organizations working outside of Silicon Valley, there is a vast shortage of developer talent to choose from. Kearns explained that today's organizations outside of technology hubs such as San Francisco have taken a proactive learning approach to help bring their new and current developers up-to-speed with the demands of today's cloud-native software platforms.

“For each of these companies that are becoming software companies, they’re trying to find out, where do they find that talent?” Kearns said, adding that, “We’re seeing a lot of companies invest in training and re-training people, teaching them to be cloud-native developers and I think that is the most fascinating piece of all this.”

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch7VKy-GgWo

As open source gains momentum, Cloud Foundry focuses on its users, citing that 40% of them are in fact end users. In a livestreamed episode of The New Stack Makers with TNS Founder Alex Williams at Cloud Foundry Summit Europe, Cloud Foundry Executive Director Abby Kearns explained that Cloud Foundry aims to continue to evolve its technology to benefit their goals when working with the Cloud Foundry platform.

For some organizations working outside of Silicon Valley, there is a vast shortage of developer talent to choose from. Kearns explained that today's organizations outside of technology hubs such as San Francisco have taken a proactive learning approach to help bring their new and current developers up-to-speed with the demands of today's cloud-native software platforms.

“For each of these companies that are becoming software companies, they’re trying to find out, where do they find that talent?” Kearns said, adding that, “We’re seeing a lot of companies invest in training and re-training people, teaching them to be cloud-native developers and I think that is the most fascinating piece of all this.”

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch7VKy-GgWo

On today's episode of The New Stack Makers, TNS Founder Alex Williams spoke with Pivotal Senior Technical Program Manager of Security Molly Crowther to learn more about her recent Cloud Foundry Summit EU presentation alongside Stephen Levine, Product Lead on the build packs team at Cloud Foundry.

In her role as Senior Technical Program Manager at Pivotal, Crowther helps teams to better work together securely, ensuring that there is less breakage of systems or data leaking along the pipeline, particularly where projects and developers can intersect. “When they have cross-cutting items across multiple teams, that’s where program management comes in at a higher level.”

During their presentation at Cloud Foundry Summit EU, Crowther and Levine discussed the project they have been working on for nearly the last year, which is a vulnerability management product for Cloud Foundry. Security was a topic of much discussion at the conference, with Crowther and Levine's presentation being no exception.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/sN3aK86Vow4

On today's episode of The New Stack Makers, TNS Founder Alex Williams spoke with Pivotal Senior Technical Program Manager of Security Molly Crowther to learn more about her recent Cloud Foundry Summit EU presentation alongside Stephen Levine, Product Lead on the build packs team at Cloud Foundry.

In her role as Senior Technical Program Manager at Pivotal, Crowther helps teams to better work together securely, ensuring that there is less breakage of systems or data leaking along the pipeline, particularly where projects and developers can intersect. “When they have cross-cutting items across multiple teams, that’s where program management comes in at a higher level.”

During their presentation at Cloud Foundry Summit EU, Crowther and Levine discussed the project they have been working on for nearly the last year, which is a vulnerability management product for Cloud Foundry. Security was a topic of much discussion at the conference, with Crowther and Levine's presentation being no exception.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/sN3aK86Vow4

On today's episode of The New Stack Makers, TNS Founder Alex Williams spoke with Pivotal Senior Technical Program Manager of Security Molly Crowther to learn more about her recent Cloud Foundry Summit EU presentation alongside Stephen Levine, Product Lead on the build packs team at Cloud Foundry.

In her role as Senior Technical Program Manager at Pivotal, Crowther helps teams to better work together securely, ensuring that there is less breakage of systems or data leaking along the pipeline, particularly where projects and developers can intersect. “When they have cross-cutting items across multiple teams, that’s where program management comes in at a higher level.”

During their presentation at Cloud Foundry Summit EU, Crowther and Levine discussed the project they have been working on for nearly the last year, which is a vulnerability management product for Cloud Foundry. Security was a topic of much discussion at the conference, with Crowther and Levine's presentation being no exception.

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/sN3aK86Vow4

“No data center runs on a heterogeneous infrastructure,” MacVittie wrote, “and even within the subset of a single vendor, organizations run multiple models and versions of hardware and software alike.”

So if we can get operators and developers together on the same page (perhaps someone should come up with an acronym for this), then shouldn’t it be feasible that we get security professionals to join in?

“I don’t think there’s a day that goes by where there isn’t some new feature, or concept, or way to do x, y, or z,” MacVittie told Scott Fulton for this latest edition of The New Stack Makers.  “It’s Legos as it was meant to be:  ‘Here’s a box, build whatever you like!’  That’s great, especially in the early days of a technology. . . One of the things that has to happen is, this needs some time to mature before we can get the security folks to say, ‘This is how this is working, and this is what we need to do.’”

Hear more of Lori MacVittie’s thoughts on this matter of the meeting of the three mindsets — dev, sec, and/or ops in this edition of The New Stack Makers.