In this conversation, Paul Blankley and Ryan Janssen, founders of Zenlytic, drop in to discuss the massive shift in how we build software and handle data. We trace their journey from studying early NLP and Transformers at Harvard right when the BERT paper dropped, to building a company that relies on cutting-edge LLMs. As far as I know, they're the first to use LLM's for analytics.

We dive deep into the reality of the agentic era: engineers are no longer writing the bulk of the code; they are managing agents, verifying outputs, and maintaining ridiculously high standards. We also explore why the industry needs to embrace "net negative scaffolding" as models get smarter, and why having good "taste" might be the ultimate human moat left in tech.Bonus:

To prove that software development is changing faster than ever, we literally "vibe coded" a brand-new CRM called "Slop Force" in 20 minutes during this episode. Zenlytic: https://www.zenlytic.com/