In this episode, Asher Herbstman and Thatcher Clough, co-founders of Clear30, share the journey of taking their app, Clear30, from idea to 6,000 weekly downloads, $8K MRR, and $100K ARR through subscription revenue.

They reveal how a broken onboarding flow nearly stalled growth—and the psychology-driven A/B tests that turned it around. You’ll also hear what worked (and what flopped) with paid ads, plus how they leveraged research partnerships and federal grants to fuel momentum.

Whether you’re an indie founder or scaling your own app, this conversation is packed with real-world lessons on user psychology, onboarding optimization, retention strategies, and sustainable growth that you can start applying today.

You will discover:

✅ How to spot and fix a broken onboarding flow

✅ AB test ideas that actually move the needle

✅ Psychology tactics to persuade and retain users

Learn More:

🌐 Website: https://clear30.org/

📲 App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/clear30-quit-smoking-weed/id6476418203

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