Engage in a deep and revealing conversation that explores the nuances of coaching, the evolution of swimming techniques, and the philosophies that drive success in the world of triathlon and competitive swimming. We cover the importance of disagreeing as coaches to foster growth, the challenges of adapting coaching techniques over time, and the anecdotal versus scientific bases of their practices. We touch on the psychological aspects of competition, emphasizing the role of the heart and brain over physical prowess alone. We even dive into insights on making a difference in athletes' lives, underscoring the lifelong journey of learning and adaptation for both coach and athlete. This episode is a treasure trove for anyone interested in the art and science of coaching, the mental fortitude required for competitive success, and the rich experiences that define the swimming and triathlon community.