In this special National Gardening Week episode of The Plant Based Podcast, Michael and Ellen chat to Markus about how the only way to truly get the best, brightest colours in fruit is to grow them yourself.

Markus talks about the seedless fruits he has developed, how he is changing the world of apples and the difference between breeding plants for home use vs. commercial.

His passion for finding something different in plants is inspiring, as is his patience and dedication to fruit plant breeding .