This episode is with journalist, author, designer and garden consultant, Naomi Slade. Naomi works extensively within the gardening and lifestyle media as a writer and broadcaster plus lectures on a range of specialist subjects. She has written a number of popular gardening books and is an award winning designer often with an environmental focus. So with all of that and a new book about Chrysanthemums recently released, Naomi chats about how to grow them, and why they are set to make a comeback.

Afterwards, @ellenmarygardening and @mr_plantgeek gossip from different continents about all kinds of nonsense.