This episode of The Practice Podcast features member spotlight Ashley Falls, a creative and cultural leader and managing director at the Clios, sharing how energetic literacy and embodiment reshaped her relationship to burnout, productivity, and leadership. Ashley recounts growing up in rural Kentucky without access to meditation or yoga, discovering yoga and mantra-based meditation in college, and later trusting intuition to pivot from a planned law career after working in foreclosure law to earning a master’s in cinema studies and moving to New York, where she deepened practices like transcendental meditation and later became Reiki-certified. She describes recurring burnout cycles tied to demanding work, learning through SORCE HRV-based scoring to honor RECOVER days, improve the quality of her writing and work, and communicate energy needs to her team and children. The conversation highlights balancing objective data with intuitive, somatic awareness and developing articulation, boundaries, and wholeness.

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00:00 Burnout As Signal

00:34 Meet Ashley Falls

01:29 Seeking Spiritual Tools

03:44 Meditation Builds Trust

05:31 Law Path Breaks

08:11 Midnight Intuition Pivot

11:58 New York Spiritual Expansion

14:18 Burnout Patterns Emerge

16:10 Discovering Embodiment

18:24 Reiki And Energy Study

21:00 SORCE Disrupts Routine

24:04 Surrender Boosts Creativity

25:43 Host Reflection Mystery

29:24 Boundaries For Giving

30:40 Frustration Eases

31:21 Recover Day With Trainer

33:07 Travel Burnout Reality Check

35:58 Making Recovery Flexible

37:35 Energetic Literacy Framework

39:50 Assessment Insights Articulation

42:34 Parenting With Emotional Language

48:02 Leading With Energy Awareness

51:52 Workplace Ripple Effects

57:32 Next Edge Writing Embodiment

01:02:06 Wholeness Balance Closing

What does real growth actually look like — and does the future of business require a fundamentally different kind of leader?

In this episode, we sit down with Marc de Swaan Arons, founder of the Institute for Real Growth (IRG), one of the leading thinkers on the future of marketing and business leadership. With over three decades working with global brands and CMOs — from his career at Unilever to founding the consulting firm Effective Brands — Marc now works with senior leaders at companies like Coca-Cola, MasterCard, and Nestlé to reimagine what growth means in a stakeholder economy.

We explore how intangible assets now make up 80% of a company's value, why exhausted marketers are a systemic risk, and what it truly takes to lead from a place of strength in a world demanding more from business than ever before.

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SHOWNOTES:

2:14: Redefining "Real Growth" — Why value creation is about far more than profits, and how IRG makes that case to Fortune 500 leaders and CMOs

3:54: Enrolling Leaders in a New Story — The combination of logical business case and emotional appeal that gets senior executives on board

5:17: The Intangible Asset Revolution — How the shift from 80% tangible to 80% intangible value fundamentally changes how companies should be led

13:54: The Marketer's Unique Role — Why marketers are the "window on the world" for organizations and the underappreciated drivers of human-centered innovation

18:42: Burnout as a Systemic Risk — Why depleted, exhausted leaders — especially CMOs — are dangerous for organizational creativity and momentum

25:28: Whole-Brain & Embodied Leadership — The IRG approach to getting leaders out of their heads through constellation work, meditation, and embodiment practices

27:08: The Courage to Change — What percentage of senior leaders are truly willing to challenge existing growth models

33:30: AI, Optimism, and the Next 50 Years — How Marc sees the role of companies in society evolving, and why he remains hopeful

36:27: Personal Practice — How Marc manages his own energy conscientiously as a self-described change maker and storyteller

In this Founder to Founder episode of The Practice Podcast, Jessica and Kristi recap six months of navigating major unknowns at SORCE: shifting from primarily enterprise engagements toward serving leaders directly, learning who is truly ready for energetic literacy, finding authentic language that balances practical frameworks with inner work, and building regenerative financial models with clear boundaries. They describe how enterprise wasn’t abandoned but approached differently, and share what they’ve learned about the high-performing, change-agent leaders drawn to their work. They discuss prioritizing community needs over “efficient” scaling, maintaining integrity by pricing for the time real transformation requires, and measuring energy through HRV data while using “warm data” from somatic experience. They close with upcoming unknowns, including launching a certification, moving to annual commitments in the community, and allowing growth to unfold at its natural pace.

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SHOWNOTES:

00:00 Burnout As Signal

00:35 Founder Update And Pivot

04:15 Energetic Literacy Basics

05:17 Unknown One Finding The Who

07:34 Leaving The Convincing Loop

11:06 Unknown Two Finding The Words

18:19 Unknown Three Regenerative Money

23:17 Knowns The Leader Archetype

30:11 Language Balance And Momentum

32:46 Pricing For Human Depth

37:21 Integrity And Long Game

39:59 No Magic Wand Fixes

42:30 Melting the Grind

43:25 Certification Launch Unknowns

44:53 Growing Without Sales Machine

46:22 Annual Commitment Shift

49:46 Letting Growth Be Natural

53:54 Enterprise Comes to You

55:24 Energy Data and HRV Trends

58:31 Kristi Commitment Drivers

01:04:29 Leader Attunement in Practice

01:06:49 Environment and Baseline Boost

01:11:38 Commitments and Closing

Join us for an in-depth conversation with Bristol Baughan, an Emmy-winning and Oscar-nominated film producer, leadership coach, and founder of the Regenerative Media Lab. Bristol shares her personal journey towards aligning with her inner energy, the story behind discovering the concept of 'regenerative,' and how it has influenced her life and work. This episode explores the intersection of soul and soil, the importance of listening to our body's signals, and the courage needed to embrace periods of quiet and inactivity. Tune in for inspiring insights and real-life stories that offer a pathway to creating a more life-affirming future.

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SHOWNOTES:

00:00 Introduction to The Practice Podcast

00:39 Special Guest: Bristol Baughan

02:08 The Concept of Regeneration

02:50 Personal Journey and Reflections

06:51 The Importance of Letting the Soul Lay Fallow

09:42 Moving to the Azores

16:51 Trusting Aliveness and Making Decisions

24:28 Balancing Ambition and Inner Peace

30:12 Aligning with Your Values

31:11 The Importance of Vitality

31:36 Embracing Diversity in Design

32:32 Understanding Your Purpose

34:04 The Role of Ambition

36:14 Living with Integrity

38:38 The Concept of Regenerative Living

39:56 Balancing Ambition and Service

44:11 Practical Steps Towards Regeneration

55:00 The Power of Kindness and Patience

56:49 Final Reflections and Gratitude

In this episode of The Practice Podcast, we explore the transformational journey of Stacey Rogers, a vice president of human resources who redefined her relationship with work, life, and energy. Stacey shares her story of dealing with burnout, the impact of yoga and meditation, and the significant role of nature in her healing process. She highlights her realization about the importance of energetic literacy and how understanding and managing her energy led to profound personal and professional growth. Stacey's insights on balancing analytical and intuitive thinking provide valuable lessons for anyone navigating stressful environments. Tune in to learn how Stacey's commitment to self-alignment has empowered her to embrace her authentic self and pursue meaningful work.

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SHOWNOTES:

00:00 Introduction to The Practice Podcast

00:36 Meet Stacey Rogers: A Journey of Energetic Literacy

01:33 Stacey's Path to Self-Discovery

07:45 The Role of Yoga and Meditation

10:39 Embracing Authentic Self-Expression

25:36 The Power of Nature and Retreats

28:58 Challenges and Personal Growth

35:26 Future Aspirations and Closing Thoughts

In this episode, we explore the transformative power of aligning with your energy through the insightful journey of Amanda Cross Gerber. Amanda shares her transition from the startup world to founding 'Wild Order,' a consultancy focused on energetic literacy and regenerative leadership. Through real stories and data-driven insights, discover how understanding your own energy and role in a team can lead to deeper alignment and more meaningful work-life integration. Join us for a conversation filled with inspiration, purpose, and practical tools for creating life-affirming changes from within.

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SHOWNOTES:

00:00 Introduction to The Practice Podcast

01:01 Meet Amanda Cross Gerber

02:04 Amanda's Journey to Wild Order

08:10 The Wild Order Framework

16:24 Challenges and Benefits of Being a Change Agent

21:49 Vision for the Future of Work

28:22 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In this episode, we explore the transformative power of aligning with your energy through the insightful journey of Amanda Cross Gerber. Amanda shares her transition from the startup world to founding 'Wild Order,' a consultancy focused on energetic literacy and regenerative leadership. Through real stories and data-driven insights, discover how understanding your own energy and role in a team can lead to deeper alignment and more meaningful work-life integration. Join us for a conversation filled with inspiration, purpose, and practical tools for creating life-affirming changes from within.

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SHOWNOTES:

00:00 Introduction to The Practice Podcast

01:01 Meet Amanda Cross Gerber

02:04 Amanda's Journey to Wild Order

08:10 The Wild Order Framework

16:24 Challenges and Benefits of Being a Change Agent

21:49 Vision for the Future of Work

28:22 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In this episode we delve into the life and insights of Claude Silver, Chief Heart Officer at VaynerMedia. Explore how Claude's journey from self-sabotage to emotional bravery shaped her leadership style and personal growth. In this conversation we learn about “kind candor” and the significance of aligning energy for transformative relationships and work environments. 

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SHOWNOTES:

00:00 Introduction to The Practice Podcast

00:37 Meet Claude Silver: Chief Heart Officer at VaynerMedia

01:55 Claude's Early Life and Struggles

07:19 Turning Point: Wilderness Outward Bound

09:45 Journey to Self-Acceptance and Leadership

13:24 Corporate Career and Meeting Gary Vaynerchuk

18:57 Practices for Personal Growth Across Decades

22:58 Energetic Literacy and Leadership

27:55 Energy Work and Generosity

28:39 Lessons from Surfing

30:12 Transparency and Communication

31:58 The Cost of Poor Culture

33:19 Somatic Practices and Energy Management

35:14 Regenerative Business Models

37:51 Return on Energy (ROE)

41:39 Balancing Logic and Intuition

45:14 Global Cultural Nuances

49:13 Kind Candor and Company Culture

53:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In this episode, we explore the concept of energetic alignment to combat burnout and enhance leadership. In this episode, we delve into a case study featuring Lisa May and Authentica, demonstrating how leaders can transform their energy usage to improve personal vitality and organizational performance. Through HRV tracking and daily micro practices, discover how leaders increased their self-awareness, resilience, and overall effectiveness. Learn how trust and data-driven insights can foster sustainable change and lead to more innovative and cohesive teams.

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SHOWNOTES:

00:00 Introduction to Burnout as a Signal

00:41 Case Study: Energetic Literacy in Leadership

01:21 The Regenerate 30-Day Experience

02:56 Data and Results from the Experience

04:28 Key Insights and Takeaways

05:41 Conclusion: Building the Future of Work

In this episode, Jess introduces John Meek, a longtime friend and guest member, to discuss the concept of 'energetic literacy.' They delve into how listening to and aligning with one's energy can transform personal and professional lives. John shares his experiences with the 30-day HRV tracking program, revealing insights into managing energy, practicing discernment, and integrating this understanding into real-life situations. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation about the role of energetic alignment in achieving optimal performance and well-being in both his personal and professional life.

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SHOWNOTES:

00:00 Introduction to The Practice Podcast

00:39 Meet John Meek: A Journey into Energetic Literacy

01:56 Understanding and Practicing Energetic Literacy

06:53 The Role of HRV in Self-Discovery

12:14 Aligning Energy with Daily Life

16:35 Takeaways and Broader Implications

21:26 Conclusion and Final Thoughts