The Programming Podcast

Is the open-source ecosystem being manipulated? In this episode of The Programming Podcast, Danny Thompson and Leon Noel dive into the dark underbelly of GitHub: a fake star economy where startups are buying engagement for as little as $0.06 a star to secure massive VC funding rounds.

We break down a bombshell 16-page study from Carnegie Mellon University that uncovered over 6 million suspected fake stars across 18,000 repositories. We also discuss how to spot fake repositories using the fork-to-star ratio, the hidden malware risks in "cracked" software repos, and whether the rise of AI agents is fundamentally killing the spirit of open-source contribution.

Later in the episode, we tackle a critical Q&A: How do you demonstrate impact on a resume when your company doesn't track metrics? We share a masterclass on how to take selfish control of your 1-on-1s to extract the exact data you need to level up your career.

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Chapters:

00:00 - The $0.06 Fake GitHub Star Scam

01:03 - Welcome to The Programming Podcast!

01:48 - The Carnegie Mellon "Star Scout" Study

08:48 - Why Startups Buy Stars for VC Funding

10:19 Sponsor

11:20 - The AI Startup Funding Pipeline

15:24 - How to Spot Fake Repos (The Fork-to-Star Ratio)

16:43 - The Malware Trap: Pirated Software & Roblox Hacks

19:59 - Is Open Source Dead?

25:08 - AI Agents vs. Core Engineering Practices

29:04 - Q&A: Proving Resume Impact Without Tracked Metrics

31:19 - How to Hack Your 1-on-1s with Your Manager

35:42 - Upcoming Episodes & Outro

You got the promotion, you got the title, and now you’re sitting in your fourth meeting of the day wondering: "Wait, am I even an engineer anymore?" In this episode of The Programming Podcast, Danny Thompson and Leon Noel sit down with Staff Engineers Robbie Wagner (IBM/HashiCorp) and Adam Argyle (Shopify/Google) to unmask the reality of the Staff Engineer role. If you are a Senior Developer feeling stuck at the "ceiling" of individual contribution, or a Junior curious about the top of the ladder, this deep dive is for you.

Check out the episode we did with Whiskey Web and Whatnot!

https://youtu.be/HJG8xd8hJHI?si=DkEDHyEnfyzHIGyQ

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In this video, we break down:

- Tactics vs. Strategy: Why writing more code might actually be blocking your promotion.

- The Force Multiplier: How to scale your impact through others rather than your own hands.

- The 4 Archetypes of Staff Engineering: Which one are you? (Tech Lead, Architect, Solver, or Right Hand).

- The Power of Documentation: Why docs are a "garden," not an artifact, and how to write for VPs.

- MVP vs. MDP: Why your "Minimally Viable Product" might be failing your users.

- Stop worrying about perfection and start worrying about influence. Your impact should go up even as your commit history goes down.

Connect with our guests:

Robbie Wagner: Whiskey, Web and Whatnot Podcast

Adam Argyle: Staff Engineer at Shopify (Formerly Google Chrome)

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Video Chapters

00:00 – The Promotion Trap: Am I still an engineer?

01:03 – Introductions: Meet the Staff Engineers from IBM & Shopify

02:40 – Defining the Role: What does a Staff Engineer actually DO?

05:00 – The Force Multiplier: Scaling your intentions through influence

06:54 – Tactician vs. Strategist: Changing your mental model

08:35 – Why your commit history should be going down

10:37 – How to scale yourself using media and "scaled abstraction"

13:12 – The Reality Check: When your CEO tells you to stop coding

17:07 – The 4 Staff Engineer Archetypes (Will Larson’s Framework)

19:25 – Technical Depth vs. Business Communication

22:00 – Predicting the future: "Smelling" bugs before they happen

26:36 – Documentation as a Garden: Why stale docs kill products

30:28 – Multi-lane Readability: Writing docs for Juniors AND VPs

34:46 – The AutoZone Lesson: Putting the customer first

43:44 – Saving the Tylenol: Identifying friction in the organization

51:15 – Ask the Podcast: When do you stop tweaking and just SHIP?

54:48 – The Big Debate: MVP (Viable) vs. MDP (Desirable)

01:05:00 – Final Thoughts: Don't let perfection block your paycheck

We're breaking down a successful job search strategy that has helped thousands of people, providing job hunting tips and career advice that are working right now.

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Danny shares how to find a job effectively, drawing from recent personal experience to guide every job seeker in achieving their goals. This episode is packed with job search advice and crucial insights for your next job interview.

Stop cold applying to tech jobs. The data proves it doesn't work.

In this episode of The Programming Podcast, Leon Noel and I break down the exact job hunt strategy I used to land over 40 technical interviews in just six weeks. We pull back the curtain on the actual Ashby hiring data to show you exactly why 94% of cold applications result in ghosting, and what you mathematically need to do to fix your pipeline.

We are giving you the exact blueprint to bypass the resume black hole. We cover how to build high-leverage relationships in the DMs, how to structure your resume to force the interviewer to ask the right questions, and the psychology behind the "pattern disrupt" to turn a rigid technical interrogation into a peer-to-peer conversation. Plus, I share the exact constrained questions I ask at the end of an interview to flip the script, secure the offer, and negotiate compensation that shatters standard pay bands.

There is no humbleness on the hunt. Stop playing the lottery and start playing chess. Let's get this bread.

In This Episode:

The Ashby Data: Why cold applying is statistically setting you up to fail.

The Art of the DM: How to reach out to engineering managers and actually get a reply.

Resume Strategy: How to design your bullet points to control the interview narrative.

The Pattern Disrupt: How to break the corporate script and stand out immediately.

The Illusion of Choice: Why you need to stop asking open-ended questions.

Questions You MUST Ask: The exact scripts to lock in a job offer and a higher salary.

Salary Negotiation: How to successfully advocate for pay outside the standard bands.

Resources & Links:

Grab my new book, The Developer's Guide to AI: developersguide.ai

Connect with me on my website: dthompsondev.com

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Timestamps:

0:00 - The Strategy That's Working Right Now

01:02 - Landing 40+ Interviews in 6 Weeks

03:34 - The Developer's Guide to AI

04:22 - The Ashby Data: Why Cold Applying Fails

11:12 - The Real Networking Strategy

14:21 - The Art of the Cold DM

24:48 - Resume Strategy & Controlling the Interview

29:09 - The Pattern Disrupt Technique

39:30 - The Illusion of Choice (Constrained Questions)

47:03 - The Best Questions to Ask Your Interviewer

53:03 - Navigating Technical and Behavioral Questions

58:51 - Negotiating Compensation & Breaking Pay Bands

1:01:21 - No Humbleness on the Hunt

1:07:19 - Visual Goal Setting & Accountability

We are breaking down the massive AI news surrounding the recent security breach. This episode discusses the unprecedented anthropic leak, which exposed the claude source code and led to a significant claude code leak, impacting half a million lines of code. We explore the implications of this event and what it means for cyber security in the AI world.

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Chapters

00:00 - Intro: The Largest AI Leak in History

01:47 - By the Numbers: Secret Variables, Commands & Build Flags

03:17 - Coordinator Mode & The Sub-Agent Hierarchy

06:56 - UDS Inbox & Auto Dream: The Future of AI Memory

10:24 - Auth0

10:51 - Uncovering Hidden Slash Commands (/dream, /bug_hunter)

13:41 - Exploring Claude's New Voice Mode & Dictation Tools

16:26 - "Undercover Mode": Ghostwriting Open Source Commits

18:27 - The Not-So-Fun Leaks: 6x Fast Mode Markups & HIPAA Limits

23:34 - Breaking Down Claude's Step-by-Step Query Loop Architecture

26:59 - OpenAI's Massive $150 Billion Valuation Announcement

28:03 - Ask Danny: The Ultimate Post-Coffee Chat Follow-Up Strategy

35:27 - Outro & Wrap-Up

With AI tools writing 90% of the code out there and "vibe coding" taking over our timelines, is learning the fundamentals of software engineering a waste of time? Leon and I sit down to finally answer the question we get asked every single day. We break down the truth about the "Agentic Era," why skipping the basics will break your apps in production, and how skills-based hiring is fundamentally changing what employers look for. If you are learning to code right now, or trying to land your next role, this is the exact roadmap you need to become the "AI-Augmented Engineer" that companies are desperately looking for.

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🔥 MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:

Commit Your Code 2026 is officially happening! Join us September 3rd & 4th in Plano, Texas. $40 tickets, 100% goes to charity. Come for the JavaScript, AI, and startup tracks—stay for the 90-minute hands-on workshops.

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Video Chapters

0:00 - The Big Question: Do You Still Need to Learn to Code?

1:00 - HUGE Announcement: Commit Your Code 2026 is Back!

3:35 - The Thesis: Why AI Will Make You Ship "Bad Stuff" Faster

6:05 - Is AI Really Writing 90% of the World's Code?

8:13 - What Happened When a Coding Bootcamp Allowed AI

9:22 - Sponsor Break: Level Up Financial Planning

10:22 - The "New Edge": Why 71% of Leaders Prefer AI-Augmented Juniors

12:10 - Vibe Coding, AI "Slop," and Content Generation

16:22 - Vercel’s CEO on Why Fundamentals Matter More Than Ever

19:34 - NACE Data: Skills-Based Hiring is Up 70% (GPA is Dead)

21:19 - The Exact 6-Month Roadmap to Become an AI-Augmented Dev

23:42 - Stop Guessing: How to Find the Tech Stack in Demand in Your City

27:10 - The Ultimate Trap: Using AI Too Early in Your Learning Journey

30:28 - What Recruiters Actually Want (Hint: It’s Not Syntax)

32:33 - Real Resume Review: Why Your Bullet Points Have No Strategy

36:01 - Q&A: Should You Accept a Lowball Job Offer?

38:40 - Why Cold Applying is Failing You (Teaser for Next Episode)

LeetCode is dead… or is it?

HackerRank dropped a bold take that set the internet on fire: “LeetCode is dead,” because devs do not write code line-by-line anymore. We orchestrate AI, debug its output, and catch failures in real time. So if the job changed, should interviews finally change too?

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In this episode, Danny Thompson and Leon Noel break down what HackerRank is really saying, why LeetCode traffic is still exploding, and what the “new interview” is starting to test: fundamentals plus AI fluency.

We talk about the lag you should expect from big companies, how to think about DSA strategically (especially if you are not targeting FAANG), and what modern AI competency looks like in practice. Prompting is not typing faster. It is context engineering. Question, not command.

Then we tackle a listener question: “I’m a junior dev and my job doesn’t use any tools that make me competitive. How do I level up in AI?” The answer is direct: growth is not guaranteed at work, so you have to build it yourself. Tools, models, workflows, and habits that keep you ahead.

If you are prepping for interviews in 2026, this is your roadmap for what to keep, what to drop, and what to add.

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Chapters (YouTube)

0:00 HackerRank says “LeetCode is dead”

1:15 Welcome + intros (Danny Thompson, Leon Noel)

1:55 Danny’s Atlassian update: Forge, Marketplace reach, and what’s coming

3:26 Why this HackerRank post matters (they have the hiring data)

4:34 Interviews must evolve: testing AI usage, not just algorithms

5:14 HackerRank’s AI IDE idea: evaluating prompts and process

6:34 “LeetCode isn’t dead” counterpoint: traffic is climbing again

7:24 Why adoption lags: companies will keep old interviews for years

9:12 Practical strategy: DSA still opens doors, but it’s not the only door

10:59 Sponsor: Auth0 (identity for AI agents)

11:46 FAANG vs non-FAANG prep: how deep you actually need to go

13:03 Some companies “think they’re FAANG” and what that signals

13:52 Interview mindset shift: show everything, don’t hope they notice

15:57 The new skill set: fundamentals + AI fluency

16:31 Why most people think AI “sucks” and how to fix it

18:05 The core: context before commands (index first, act second)

20:35 Vibe coding vs AI engineering: the difference is the setup

21:45 Transactional prompting trap + the “drop shadow” example

23:09 Use AI like a blunt senior engineer to challenge your assumptions

25:00 “Question, not command” as a simple upgrade

25:36 The new layer: tools, agents, MCPs, workflows, AI-augmented engineering

27:42 Internal knowledge tools (Rovo) and why focused context wins

29:25 Ask Danny & Leon: “My job doesn’t use AI tools. How do I stay competitive?”

29:57 “Learning doesn’t happen on the job” and how to level up outside work

31:10 Try models, tools, and agentic workflows (Cursor, etc.)

32:06 Bring the value back to work: prove productivity, then ask for adoption

33:00 Your circle changes your ceiling (community as a force multiplier)

35:09 A job dictates pay, you dictate worth

36:19 Closing: keep learning, keep growing, see you next episode

For the last 18 months, we’ve been hearing that “AI is Magic.” But what happens when you connect that “magic” to your production database, your billing APIs, and your enterprise systems? It becomes a financial ticking time bomb.

In this episode of The Programming Podcast, Leon and I sit down with Monica Bajaj, VP of Engineering at Okta. We are tearing down the "God Mode" tutorials you see on YouTube and talking about the terrifying engineering reality of Agentic AI.

We break down the "Infinite Loop from Hell," why you need to start treating your AI like a Junior Developer with a corporate credit card, and how to actually secure your architecture before your agent bankrupts your company at 2:00 AM. If you are building with AI, deploying MCP servers, or just trying to figure out this new frontier—you cannot afford to miss this one.

In this episode, we cover:

- The "Financial Blast Radius" of uncontrolled AI actions

- The 3 P's Framework: Purpose, Privilege, and Protection

- Why standard Rate Limiting isn't enough (and why you need MCP Gateways)

- Token Vaults, the "5-Minute Pulse Check," and Dynamic Zero Trust

- Overcoming Imposter Syndrome when the tech world resets

Make sure to hit that like button, subscribe, and let us know in the comments: Are you giving your AI agents "God Mode"?

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Chapter Timestamps:

0:00 - The Wake-Up Call: Why AI is Dangerous, Not Just Magic

0:53 - Welcome Monica Bajaj (VP of Engineering, Okta)

3:08 - The "Probabilistic Runtime" & Identity Blind Spots

5:02 - Accidental Agent Sprawl & Draining Cloud Credits

6:50 - The "Infinite Loop From Hell" (Bankrupting Your Company)

9:24 - Financial Blast Radius vs. Text Hallucinations

12:17 - The Danger of Giving AI "God Mode"

14:26 - The 3 P's Framework: Purpose, Privilege, & Protection

16:44 - The Biggest Anti-Pattern in Early Agent Builds

18:23 - Purpose: Why Agents Need a "Job Description"

20:25 - Privilege: The "Junior Dev with a Credit Card" Metaphor

24:48 - Protection: Why Rate Limiting Isn't Enough (MCP Gateways)

27:29 - Token Vaults & The 5-Minute Pulse Check

30:32 - The SHIELD Acronym & Dynamic Zero Trust

33:18 - Buy vs. Build: Identity in the Agentic Era

40:03 - The 2 AM Test (If You Can't Stop It, You Can't Ship It)

44:24 - Q&A: Overcoming AI Imposter Syndrome

47:09 - Danny's Mic Drop: Why We Are All Imposters Right Now

In this episode, Danny and Leon break down a massive 48 hours in AI. With the surprise drop of Anthropic Opus 4.6 and OpenAI’s Codex 5.3, the landscape for software engineers has shifted again. We dive deep into what a 1-million-token context window actually means for your workflow, the rise of Agent Teams, and why "vibe coding" recently led to a massive security blunder in the dev community. We also answer a listener question about whether custom code or off-the-shelf builders like Shopify are the right choice for small business clients.

📑 Chapters

0:00 – Intro: The Drake vs. Kendrick of AI Drops

1:20 – Opus 4.6 Metrics & Terminal Bench 2.0

3:02 – The 1-Million-Token Window: Game Changer or Overkill?

4:36 – How Large Context Affects Codebase Scanning

5:45 – Adaptive vs. Extended Thinking: Effort Parameters Explained

7:50 – The Gemini Ratchet: How Google Set the Standard for Context

9:15 – Playwright & MCP: Unlocking Visual Testing with Massive Windows

10:55 – Understanding Context Rot & Reduction in Long Chats

13:30 – Does a Million Tokens Kill RAG? (Retrieval-Augmented Generation)

14:35 – Orchestration Layers: Sub-Agents vs. Agent Teams

17:23 – Cost Analysis: Comparing Sonnet 4.5 vs. Opus 4.6 Pricing

20:00 – Anthropic’s Response to Developer Complaints (The "Think Harder" Meme)

22:20 – Skill Frameworks & Code Standards Files

24:45 – The "Feel" of the Model: Speed vs. Risk-Taking in Logic

27:00 – Current Dev Workflows: When to switch to Codex 5.3

30:50 – Prompt Engineering in the Thinking Model Era

32:45 – Sam Altman’s "Bar" & The Reality of Benchmarks

36:15 – Is Coding Dead? Addressing the Hype Cycle and Management Fears

37:55 – The "Maltbot" Security Blunder: Why Humans Must Stay in the Loop

42:15 – AI in WebDev vs. Embedded Systems & Cloud

45:55 – Q&A: Website Builders (Shopify/Wix) vs. Custom Code for Clients

50:50 – Final Thoughts: Selling Your Time and Knowledge, Not Just Syntax

This isn't about a new JavaScript framework; it's about a significant shift in software engineering. If you're in tech or aspire to be a software developer, this discussion is crucial for understanding the future of web development.

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In this episode, Leon and I live-react to the viral tweet from Andrej Karpathy (founding member of OpenAI, former Tesla AI Director) that has the entire dev world talking. Karpathy reveals that his workflow has shifted from 80% manual to 80% agentic in just one month. We’re diving deep into what it actually means to "program in English" and whether our skills are atrophying as AI takes the wheel.

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We also discuss:

- The "Vibe Coding" Shift: Why the "Idea Guy" is dead and why the "Builder" is winning.

- Atrophy vs. Expansion: Are we losing our edge, or just building faster?

- The "Slop-ocalypse": Preparing for 2026 as GitHub gets flooded with AI-generated spaghetti code.

- Real-world Impact: How I’m using these exact agentic workflows to build EventConvo.

Special Guest Mention: Shout out to Logan Kilpatrick from the Google Gemini team for the insights that sparked this conversation.

Chapters

0:00 – The Biggest Change to Coding in 20 Years

1:05 – Shoutout to Logan Kilpatrick & Gemini

1:52 – Reacting to Andrej Karpathy’s Viral Tweet

2:40 – "I am Programming in English Now"

4:05 – How Our Prompting Has Evolved (Whisper Flow & Opus)

5:30 – Does Agentic Coding Feel "Wrong"?

6:55 – The Theo T3 "Toothbrush" Workflow

7:45 – Building EventConvo: AI as a Force Multiplier

9:15 – Is AI Taking Developer Jobs? (The Stack Overflow Comparison)

12:35 – The Death of the "Idea Guy"

14:15 – Why You Still Need an IDE (Watching Agents Like a Hawk)

18:30 – The Senior Dev Gap: Pattern Recognition vs. Logic

20:20 – The Fear of Skill Atrophy

23:10 – Speed Ups vs. Expansion: Are We Doing Too Much?

27:40 – Leverage: Stop Telling AI What to Do

32:10 – Is Coding Still Fun?

35:50 – 2026: The Year of the "Slop-ocalypse"

43:05 – What Happens to the 10x Engineer?

48:20 – Future Tech: Anthropic Co-work & Gemini CLI

52:45 – Ask Danny & Leon: How to Crush a 3-Hour Virtual Onsite

59:20 – Final Thoughts: Now is the Time to Play

Apple’s latest decision to team with Google and use Gemini signals something bigger than a headline. It highlights how far Gemini has come, and why utility is becoming the real battleground for AI in 2026.

In this episode, we sit down with Logan Kilpatrick from the Gemini team at Google DeepMind to talk about what this moment means for developers, builders, and teams choosing tools today. We get into the evolution of Gemini, why multimodality and long context mattered early, and how Gemini is increasingly showing up where people already work through products like Workspace, Gmail, and Docs.

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We also dig into what’s next for image generation and editing, including the leap in text accuracy, practical features creators want (like layers and transparent backgrounds), and the role of technologies like SynthID in building trust as AI content becomes more common.

Plus: vibe coding, reasoning models, prompt expansion, how developers can ask for more ambitious outcomes, and why proactivity and proof-of-work experiences are shaping the next wave of AI products.

If you’re building with AI or trying to stay ahead as a developer, this episode will give you a clear view into where things are going.

0:00 Apple’s decision changes the AI narrative

1:11 Meet today’s guest: Logan Kilpatrick (Gemini team)

1:52 Apple quote and why this is big for Gemini

2:19 Are the model wars over, and are utility wars next?

4:20 Gemini in real workflows: Workspace, Gmail, and daily utility

5:26 AI hype vs reality: why products must meet users where they are

6:42 Balancing frontier progress with “do not break the product” responsibility

8:25 Nano Banana and the leap in text accurate images

9:28 Infographics, presentations, and where image generation is going

10:00 Why text rendering became a key metric for model quality

12:19 What users want next: transparent backgrounds, layers, better editing

13:52 Trust and safety: SynthID, watermarking, and standardization challenges

16:06 What developers ask for most: quota and scale

17:38 Logs and the idea of an agent that finds missing product features

19:31 How people should use AI differently: native form factors, proactivity

21:19 Proof of work and why Deep Research builds trust fast

24:53 Prompt expansion, reasoning models, and why “prompt wizardry” is fading

26:40 Ask for more: why ambition is now the best prompting strategy

29:36 Frameworks vs over optimizing prompts: when it matters, when it does not

32:52 What “vibe coding” means now and how it is evolving

34:08 Teaching vibe coding on day one of school

36:01 Ask Danny, Leon, and Logan: feeling behind in tech

39:02 The moving finish line, authenticity, and turning the gap into a roadmap

41:25 Closing