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It’s December 25th. Merry Christmas! In 1988, rumors began to swirl about Nancy Reagan using astrology to make decisions within the White House. The Reagans downplayed the story, but soon reporters began to dig into their longstanding use of star charts and numbers, dating back to their time in Hollywood.

Jody, Niki, and Kellie are joined by podcast host Mangesh Hattikudur to talk about the Reagan’s relationship with astrology, and other ways in which presidents have sought guidance and comfort.

Mangesh’s new series is called “Skyline Drive,” and features an episode on Nancy Reagan. Check it out!

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