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The Remarkable Story of Humanist Chaplain D.S. Moss


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Devin (D.S.) Moss brings a sense of reverence for life and a curiosity about death to his work as a chaplain. During a conversation with a Zen Master about Buddhist beliefs about the afterlife, the suggestion was made to him that he would make a good chaplain. Devin didn’t think he could do the work of spiritual care because of his humanist beliefs. He doesn’t believe in God. Turns out the Zen Master didn’t believe in God, either. 

Despite a religious upbringing, Devin embraces nontheistic, or humanist, beliefs. His sense of exploration led him to attend seminary and become a chaplain. He has found great fullness and human connection in the work of a chaplain. After completing his CPE (Clinical Pastoral Education) internship, Devin accepted a position to provide spiritual care for an inmate on death row in Oklahoma. He spent most of 2023 supporting convicted murderer Phillip Hancock. Their relationship culminated in Hancock’s death by execution in November of that year.  

D.S. is also the host of the Memento Mori podcast, a show about spirituality and death he started before he became a chaplain. He’s continuing his exploration and questioning in a new podcast coming the end of summer, 2024. You can find him at mystartingpoint.life.  

Connect with Devin (D.S.) Moss on IG or IG for Remember to Die.

Watch Devin’s talk at EndWell 2023 here.

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