All Things Internal Audit

The Rise of Fourth-Party Threats


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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Mike Levy and Shontelle Mixon discuss the growing risks tied to fourth-party relationships. They discuss how internal auditors can leverage technology, enhanced contracts, and cross-functional collaboration to pinpoint, track, and reduce those downstream risks. They break down how internal audit's role is evolving in a world shaped by cybersecurity, AI, and shifting regulations.

HOST:Mike Levy, CIA, CRMA, CISSPCEO, Cherry Hill Advisory

GUEST:Shontelle Mixon, CPADivisional SVP, Internal Audit and Special Investigations, Healthcare Service Corporation

KEY POINTS:

  • Introduction [00:00–00:00:38]
  • What Is Fourth-Party Risk? [00:00:38–00:01:52]
  • Evolution of Risk and Offshoring Trends [00:01:52–00:02:32]
  • Mitigating Fourth-Party Risks [00:02:32–00:03:47]
  • Steps for Maturing a Vendor Risk Program [00:03:47–00:04:50]
  • The Challenge of Shadow IT [00:04:50–00:05:54]
  • Data Mining and Continuous Monitoring [00:05:54–00:06:59]
  • Beyond the SOC Report [00:06:59–00:08:27]
  • Getting Started Without Tech [00:08:27–00:09:32]
  • Cybersecurity as a Starting Point [00:09:32–00:10:44]
  • Educating the Audit Committee [00:10:44–00:12:00]
  • Real-Time Monitoring and Vendor Audits [00:12:00–00:13:09]
  • Misconceptions About Outsourcing Risk [00:13:09–00:13:56]
  • Preparing for the Future [00:13:56–00:15:32]
  • Pitfalls in Contracting [00:15:32–00:16:38]
  • First Step for New Audit Functions [00:16:38–00:17:12]
  • Aligning with Organizational Risk Priorities [00:17:12–00:18:36]
  • Getting Executive Buy-In [00:18:36–00:20:06]
  • Supporting Smaller Audit Shops [00:20:06–00:21:14]
  • Final Advice [00:21:14–00:21:58]

THE IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

  • 2025 International Conference
  • Learning Solutions: Auditing Third-Party Risks

Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more.

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