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VCs have been getting a lot of hate recently. The era of high FDV, low float launches may be coming to an end soon...or will it?
In today's conversation we sat down with Mads Mathiesen, a long-time crypto researcher and now leading research for an elite crypto VC Maven11. He was writing about data availability and Celestia in 2019-2020, before anyone was really paying attention to modularity.
We talk about Maven 11's big bets on modularity and why VCs are under fire in the current regime. We also talk about the evolution of crypto funding models in from the 2017 ICO craze to the structured funding models of today, the landscape has evolved dramatically. We also explore potential shifts in VC strategies to better align with the unique timelines and risks inherent in crypto projects.
After that, the conversation went into the big bets that Maven 11 has placed on modularity and the key players which they invested in early. Recently, Mads put out a post about the commoditization of complements strategy which a ton of the modular parts play. We discussed this in-depth and we found a lot of commonalities in our theses as well.
The Rollup
Maven 11 Website: https://www.maven11.com/
Maven 11 Socials: https://twitter.com/Maven11Capital
đȘđČ đđżđ đŒđđż đŻđČđđ đđŒ đœđżđŒđ±đđ°đČ đ”đ¶đŽđ”-đŸđđźđčđ¶đđ, đ»đŒđ»-đŻđ¶đźđđČđ±, đČđ±đđ°đźđđ¶đŒđ»đźđč đ°đŒđ»đđČđ»đ đłđŒđż đđ”đČ đ°đżđđœđđŒ đČđ°đŒđđđđđČđș. đŠđđœđœđŒđżđ đđ đđ”đ¶đčđČ đčđČđźđżđ»đ¶đ»đŽ đșđŒđżđČ đźđŻđŒđđ đ¶đșđœđŒđżđđźđ»đ đ°đŒđ»đ°đČđœđđ đŻđ đ°đčđ¶đ°đžđ¶đ»đŽ đźđ»đ đŒđł đđ”đČ đčđ¶đ»đžđ đŻđČđčđŒđ đłđŒđż đłđżđČđČ đżđČđđŒđđżđ°đČđ:
Website: https://therollup.co/
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The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
đđđŠđđđđđ đđ„: đđŻđ·đŠđŽđ”đȘđŻđš đȘđŻ đ€đłđșđ±đ”đ°đ€đ¶đłđłđŠđŻđ€đș đąđŻđ„ đđŠđđȘ đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđźđŽ đ€đ°đźđŠđŽ đžđȘđ”đ© đȘđŻđ©đŠđłđŠđŻđ” đłđȘđŽđŹđŽ đȘđŻđ€đđ¶đ„đȘđŻđš đ”đŠđ€đ©đŻđȘđ€đąđ đłđȘđŽđŹ, đ©đ¶đźđąđŻ đŠđłđłđ°đł, đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđź đ§đąđȘđđ¶đłđŠ đąđŻđ„ đźđ°đłđŠ. đđ” đ€đŠđłđ”đąđȘđŻ đ±đ°đȘđŻđ”đŽ đ”đ©đłđ°đ¶đšđ©đ°đ¶đ” đ”đ©đȘđŽ đ€đ©đąđŻđŻđŠđ, đžđŠ đźđąđș đŠđąđłđŻ đą đ€đ°đźđźđȘđŽđŽđȘđ°đŻ đ°đł đ§đŠđŠ đąđŽ đą đŽđ±đ°đŻđŽđ°đłđŽđ©đȘđ±, đȘđ§ đ”đ©đȘđŽ đȘđŽ đ”đ©đŠ đ€đąđŽđŠ đžđŠ đžđȘđđ đąđđžđąđșđŽ đźđąđŹđŠ đŽđ¶đłđŠ đȘđ” đȘđŽ đ€đđŠđąđł. đđŠ đąđłđŠ đŽđ”đłđȘđ€đ”đđș đąđŻ đŠđ„đ¶đ€đąđ”đȘđ°đŻđąđ đ€đ°đŻđ”đŠđŻđ” đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđź, đŻđ°đ”đ©đȘđŻđš đžđŠ đ°đ§đ§đŠđł đȘđŽ đ§đȘđŻđąđŻđ€đȘđąđ đąđ„đ·đȘđ€đŠ. đđŠ đąđłđŠ đŻđ°đ” đ±đłđ°đ§đŠđŽđŽđȘđ°đŻđąđđŽ đ°đł đđȘđ€đŠđŻđŽđŠđ„ đąđ„đ·đȘđŽđ°đłđŽ.
#Maven11 #VC #VCInvestment #Airdrops #Ethereum #Modularblockchains #Modularity
A big part of our modular thesis this year is the need for extremely high TPS blockchains which create a far better user experience, as well as a better dev experience.
You may have heard the terms "altVMs or next-gen VMs" come up on X or in other videos of ours when referring to building L2s/rollups not using EVM.
This brings us to the heart of today's discussion with Robert Sasu, a core developer for MultiversX with firm opinions about different virtual machines and execution stacks.
We discuss the MoveVM, SpaceVM, Web Assembly/Wasm, Solana VM, Linux-based VMs and more. We asked Robert how they stack up with each other when it comes to solving current scalability challenges. The goal for today is to provide insights into where we think the Ethereum scaling landscape is headed, as well as the broader modular ecosystem.
Join us for an overview of the execution layer landscape in 2024 and understand why this is a core part of our thesis.
The Rollup
MultiversX Website: https://multiversx.com/
MultiversX Socials: / multiversx
đȘđČ đđżđ đŒđđż đŻđČđđ đđŒ đœđżđŒđ±đđ°đČ đ”đ¶đŽđ”-đŸđđźđčđ¶đđ, đ»đŒđ»-đŻđ¶đźđđČđ±, đČđ±đđ°đźđđ¶đŒđ»đźđč đ°đŒđ»đđČđ»đ đłđŒđż đđ”đČ đ°đżđđœđđŒ đČđ°đŒđđđđđČđș. đŠđđœđœđŒđżđ đđ đđ”đ¶đčđČ đčđČđźđżđ»đ¶đ»đŽ đșđŒđżđČ đźđŻđŒđđ đ¶đșđœđŒđżđđźđ»đ đ°đŒđ»đ°đČđœđđ đŻđ đ°đčđ¶đ°đžđ¶đ»đŽ đźđ»đ đŒđł đđ”đČ đčđ¶đ»đžđ đŻđČđčđŒđ đłđŒđż đłđżđČđČ đżđČđđŒđđżđ°đČđ:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
đđđŠđđđđđ đđ„: đđŻđ·đŠđŽđ”đȘđŻđš đȘđŻ đ€đłđșđ±đ”đ°đ€đ¶đłđłđŠđŻđ€đș đąđŻđ„ đđŠđđȘ đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđźđŽ đ€đ°đźđŠđŽ đžđȘđ”đ© đȘđŻđ©đŠđłđŠđŻđ” đłđȘđŽđŹđŽ đȘđŻđ€đđ¶đ„đȘđŻđš đ”đŠđ€đ©đŻđȘđ€đąđ đłđȘđŽđŹ, đ©đ¶đźđąđŻ đŠđłđłđ°đł, đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđź đ§đąđȘđđ¶đłđŠ đąđŻđ„ đźđ°đłđŠ. đđ” đ€đŠđłđ”đąđȘđŻ đ±đ°đȘđŻđ”đŽ đ”đ©đłđ°đ¶đšđ©đ°đ¶đ” đ”đ©đȘđŽ đ€đ©đąđŻđŻđŠđ, đžđŠ đźđąđș đŠđąđłđŻ đą đ€đ°đźđźđȘđŽđŽđȘđ°đŻ đ°đł đ§đŠđŠ đąđŽ đą đŽđ±đ°đŻđŽđ°đłđŽđ©đȘđ±, đȘđ§ đ”đ©đȘđŽ đȘđŽ đ”đ©đŠ đ€đąđŽđŠ đžđŠ đžđȘđđ đąđđžđąđșđŽ đźđąđŹđŠ đŽđ¶đłđŠ đȘđ” đȘđŽ đ€đđŠđąđł. đđŠ đąđłđŠ đŽđ”đłđȘđ€đ”đđș đąđŻ đŠđ„đ¶đ€đąđ”đȘđ°đŻđąđ đ€đ°đŻđ”đŠđŻđ” đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđź, đŻđ°đ”đ©đȘđŻđš đžđŠ đ°đ§đ§đŠđł đȘđŽ đ§đȘđŻđąđŻđ€đȘđąđ đąđ„đ·đȘđ€đŠ. đđŠ đąđłđŠ đŻđ°đ” đ±đłđ°đ§đŠđŽđŽđȘđ°đŻđąđđŽ đ°đł đđȘđ€đŠđŻđŽđŠđ„ đąđ„đ·đȘđŽđ°đłđŽ.
#MultiversX #EVM #ExecutionLayer #Airdrops #Ethereum #Modularblockchains #Modularity
Will zk eat the modular stack? Isnât zk an enhancer for the stack as a whole? Which parts of the stack will be disrupted by zk, and how?
Today, we're diving into a thought-provoking interview with Hannes from Equilibrium Labs to get all the answers . Equilibrium Labs specializes in low-level protocol engineering, helping protocols become safer, faster, and more usable.
The core idea of "Will ZK Eat the Modular Stack?" revolves around two major trends: modularity and the expansion of ZK technology.
We also explored the trade-offs between optimistic and ZK security, as well a look into an expanded modular stack. The full stack now includes over ten components like User Operation Abstraction, Shared Sequencing, Data Querying, Long-term State Storage, and Security, going beyond the traditional modular stack's four components of Execution, Settlement, Data Availability and Consensus.
We're on the cusp of early ZK adoption across various modules, with RaaS providers and rollup frameworks starting to offer more and more options.
Full adoption of a ZK-ified modular stack might be closer than we think.
Join us as we uncover how modularity and ZK are the perfect fit for each other!
Equilibrium Website: https://equilibrium.co/
Equilibrium Socials: https://twitter.com/equilibrium_co
đȘđČ đđżđ đŒđđż đŻđČđđ đđŒ đœđżđŒđ±đđ°đČ đ”đ¶đŽđ”-đŸđđźđčđ¶đđ, đ»đŒđ»-đŻđ¶đźđđČđ±, đČđ±đđ°đźđđ¶đŒđ»đźđč đ°đŒđ»đđČđ»đ đłđŒđż đđ”đČ đ°đżđđœđđŒ đČđ°đŒđđđđđČđș. đŠđđœđœđŒđżđ đđ đđ”đ¶đčđČ đčđČđźđżđ»đ¶đ»đŽ đșđŒđżđČ đźđŻđŒđđ đ¶đșđœđŒđżđđźđ»đ đ°đŒđ»đ°đČđœđđ đŻđ đ°đčđ¶đ°đžđ¶đ»đŽ đźđ»đ đŒđł đđ”đČ đčđ¶đ»đžđ đŻđČđčđŒđ đłđŒđż đłđżđČđČ đżđČđđŒđđżđ°đČđ:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
đđđŠđđđđđ đđ„: đđŻđ·đŠđŽđ”đȘđŻđš đȘđŻ đ€đłđșđ±đ”đ°đ€đ¶đłđłđŠđŻđ€đș đąđŻđ„ đđŠđđȘ đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđźđŽ đ€đ°đźđŠđŽ đžđȘđ”đ© đȘđŻđ©đŠđłđŠđŻđ” đłđȘđŽđŹđŽ đȘđŻđ€đđ¶đ„đȘđŻđš đ”đŠđ€đ©đŻđȘđ€đąđ đłđȘđŽđŹ, đ©đ¶đźđąđŻ đŠđłđłđ°đł, đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđź đ§đąđȘđđ¶đłđŠ đąđŻđ„ đźđ°đłđŠ. đđ” đ€đŠđłđ”đąđȘđŻ đ±đ°đȘđŻđ”đŽ đ”đ©đłđ°đ¶đšđ©đ°đ¶đ” đ”đ©đȘđŽ đ€đ©đąđŻđŻđŠđ, đžđŠ đźđąđș đŠđąđłđŻ đą đ€đ°đźđźđȘđŽđŽđȘđ°đŻ đ°đł đ§đŠđŠ đąđŽ đą đŽđ±đ°đŻđŽđ°đłđŽđ©đȘđ±, đȘđ§ đ”đ©đȘđŽ đȘđŽ đ”đ©đŠ đ€đąđŽđŠ đžđŠ đžđȘđđ đąđđžđąđșđŽ đźđąđŹđŠ đŽđ¶đłđŠ đȘđ” đȘđŽ đ€đđŠđąđł. đđŠ đąđłđŠ đŽđ”đłđȘđ€đ”đđș đąđŻ đŠđ„đ¶đ€đąđ”đȘđ°đŻđąđ đ€đ°đŻđ”đŠđŻđ” đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđź, đŻđ°đ”đ©đȘđŻđš đžđŠ đ°đ§đ§đŠđł đȘđŽ đ§đȘđŻđąđŻđ€đȘđąđ đąđ„đ·đȘđ€đŠ. đđŠ đąđłđŠ đŻđ°đ” đ±đłđ°đ§đŠđŽđŽđȘđ°đŻđąđđŽ đ°đł đđȘđ€đŠđŻđŽđŠđ„ đąđ„đ·đȘđŽđ°đłđŽ.
#Equilibrium #Modularity #zk #Airdrops #Ethereum #Modularblockchains #Modularity
One of our core beliefs is the acceleration of experimentation in crypto. We believe that continuously testing novel incentive designs will lead to better results in the future. That being said, not every mechanism is going to work.
The modular thesis is growing week by week.
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Did you know that Celestia was originally called LazyLedger? The idea behind this laziness stems from Celestia's minimalistic properties. By solely focusing on data availability with minimal smart contracts & execution, Celestia is able to provide cheap and secure data verification while outsourcing execution to other chains.
The Rollup
Horizontal or vertical scaling...which way, western man?
The general idea and thesis we share is that we will see 1000s of appchains and the frameworks which are building for that future are in a good spot. In addition, we also believe there will be a ton of zkVMs (as introduced to us by Cem during this video) which will power rollups going forward.
At what point does ideological alignment affect your technological decision making?
Rollups as we know them today are more centralized than we'd like.
Basically, rollups operate using a secure multi-sig and centralized sequencer for transaction batching and ordering.
This isn't good for a multitude of reasons, notably censorship resistance. We are trying to build resilient, long-lasting systems in crypto and to do this effectively these systems need to be sufficiently decentralized...or else we are at risk of nation-state intervention.
Today, we focus on the critical topic of fraud proofs within rollups. Verifiability is integral to enhancing the scalability and security of Ethereum-based solutions without sacrificing the decentralized foundation which Vitalik has created for us.
Security varies significantly across different rollups currently. Some are based on a permissioned set of validators, while others are advancing with permissionless algorithms that resist both delay and civil attacks.
We are here to analyze these variations, particularly looking at how recent innovations, like the Kineti algorithm, utilize computation hashes and structured tournament brackets to meet these challenges head-on. The goal of our discussion is to provide a comprehensive understanding of how fraud proofs work, why they matter, and what role they play in building a more censorship resistant Ethereum.
By the end of this technical session, you'll have a clearer understanding of the complexities involved in fraud proof design and where we are headed as a community to make the modular future a verifiable one.
Join us as we delve into the technical depths of rollup designs.
Cartesi Website: https://cartesi.io/
Cartesi Socials: https://twitter.com/cartesiproject
Gabriel Coutinho Socials: https://twitter.com/GCdePaula_
đȘđČ đđżđ đŒđđż đŻđČđđ đđŒ đœđżđŒđ±đđ°đČ đ”đ¶đŽđ”-đŸđđźđčđ¶đđ, đ»đŒđ»-đŻđ¶đźđđČđ±, đČđ±đđ°đźđđ¶đŒđ»đźđč đ°đŒđ»đđČđ»đ đłđŒđż đđ”đČ đ°đżđđœđđŒ đČđ°đŒđđđđđČđș. đŠđđœđœđŒđżđ đđ đđ”đ¶đčđČ đčđČđźđżđ»đ¶đ»đŽ đșđŒđżđČ đźđŻđŒđđ đ¶đșđœđŒđżđđźđ»đ đ°đŒđ»đ°đČđœđđ đŻđ đ°đčđ¶đ°đžđ¶đ»đŽ đźđ»đ đŒđł đđ”đČ đčđ¶đ»đžđ đŻđČđčđŒđ đłđŒđż đłđżđČđČ đżđČđđŒđđżđ°đČđ:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
đđđŠđđđđđ đđ„: đđŻđ·đŠđŽđ”đȘđŻđš đȘđŻ đ€đłđșđ±đ”đ°đ€đ¶đłđłđŠđŻđ€đș đąđŻđ„ đđŠđđȘ đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđźđŽ đ€đ°đźđŠđŽ đžđȘđ”đ© đȘđŻđ©đŠđłđŠđŻđ” đłđȘđŽđŹđŽ đȘđŻđ€đđ¶đ„đȘđŻđš đ”đŠđ€đ©đŻđȘđ€đąđ đłđȘđŽđŹ, đ©đ¶đźđąđŻ đŠđłđłđ°đł, đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđź đ§đąđȘđđ¶đłđŠ đąđŻđ„ đźđ°đłđŠ. đđ” đ€đŠđłđ”đąđȘđŻ đ±đ°đȘđŻđ”đŽ đ”đ©đłđ°đ¶đšđ©đ°đ¶đ” đ”đ©đȘđŽ đ€đ©đąđŻđŻđŠđ, đžđŠ đźđąđș đŠđąđłđŻ đą đ€đ°đźđźđȘđŽđŽđȘđ°đŻ đ°đł đ§đŠđŠ đąđŽ đą đŽđ±đ°đŻđŽđ°đłđŽđ©đȘđ±, đȘđ§ đ”đ©đȘđŽ đȘđŽ đ”đ©đŠ đ€đąđŽđŠ đžđŠ đžđȘđđ đąđđžđąđșđŽ đźđąđŹđŠ đŽđ¶đłđŠ đȘđ” đȘđŽ đ€đđŠđąđł. đđŠ đąđłđŠ đŽđ”đłđȘđ€đ”đđș đąđŻ đŠđ„đ¶đ€đąđ”đȘđ°đŻđąđ đ€đ°đŻđ”đŠđŻđ” đ±đđąđ”đ§đ°đłđź, đŻđ°đ”đ©đȘđŻđš đžđŠ đ°đ§đ§đŠđł đȘđŽ đ§đȘđŻđąđŻđ€đȘđąđ đąđ„đ·đȘđ€đŠ. đđŠ đąđłđŠ đŻđ°đ” đ±đłđ°đ§đŠđŽđŽđȘđ°đŻđąđđŽ đ°đł đđȘđ€đŠđŻđŽđŠđ„ đąđ„đ·đȘđŽđ°đłđŽ.
#Cartesi #FraudProofs #Modularblockchains #Modularity #Ethereum
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