Treasurer Jim Chalmers wants everyone to have more babies but do young people even want that? 

And the 'real' Martha from Baby Reindeer has sat down for an interview on British TV, claiming the show's creator Richard Gadd made it all up. 

Plus, is lying to protect someone's feelings actually a bad idea? You could try radical honesty. 

Host Dave Marchese is joined by author and journalist Elfy Scott and Sydney Morning Herald crime reporter Perry Duffin.