In this episode of The Catholic Money Show, host Jonathan Teixeira interviews Joseph and Crystal Gruber, a couple who tackled their debt together and found spiritual and marital growth in the process. They share their debt payoff journey, which involved setting up a debt snowball plan and adopting specific language when discussing money. The couple also highlights the joy of giving and the importance of being debt-free in order to invite others into key moments of life. They emphasize the value of forward thinking, prioritizing financial goals, and embracing a spirit of generosity. This interview offers practical advice and inspiration for couples seeking financial freedom.

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Music in this episode is by Dylan Gardner – ⁠⁠⁠⁠check out his album Almost Real⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠iTunes⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠, or wherever you listen to great music