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  • 13. To the Lighthouse.

    It was necessary now to carry everything a step further. With her foot on the

    threshold she waited a moment longer in a scene which was vanishing even as
    she looked, and then, as she moved and took Minta's arm and left the room, it
    changed, it shaped itself differently; it had become, she knew, giving one
    last look at it over her shoulder, already the past.

    Our Water/Ocean cluster begins with Virginia Woolf’s To the

    Lighthouse. This curious novel describes two days
    (separated by ten dramatic years) in the life of the Ramsay family as they
    stay at their holiday home in the Scottish Hebrides with their assorted
    friends and hangers-on. But the novel does not concoct a wild plot; instead,
    it examines how the characters observe each other’s internal and emotional
    states. Chris and Suzanne explore the way Woolf and her characters try to
    capture not only the endless flow of time, but also those moments when people
    are configured just so and time seems to stand still.

    Show Notes.

    Virginia Woolf: To the Lighthouse.

    [Bookshop. In some countries,
    the text and an audiobook are now public
    domain.]

    Margaret Atwood on reading To the Lighthouse as a teen, and again as an

    adult.

    Vanessa Bell’s art.

    Vanessa Bell’s dust jacket design for the first edition of To the

    Lighthouse.

    The Hogarth Press.

    The Bloomsbury Group.

    Next episode: William Shakespeare’s The Tempest.

    [An online edition;
    free audiobook at Librivox.]

    Support The Spouter-Inn on Patreon and talk

    book with us on a members-only Slack!

    54 min
  • 12b. Bonus: Damian Fleming on Moby-Dick.

    I have been heard to say that there’s two types of people in the world:

    People who love Moby-Dick, and people who have never read Moby-Dick. [At] the
    same time, I never recommend anyone read Moby-Dick directly, because I feel
    like if you’re not reading it at your own leisure and come to it willingly, it
    could be really, really annoying._

    Medievalist and Moby-Dick fan Damian Fleming joins us to keep the

    conversation going about this great book. We discuss our favourite passages,
    how Ishmael represents his labours, how we feel about whaling and cetology,
    how potentially gross strawberries are, and all the humour in the novel and
    what’s been done with the novel.

    Show Notes.

    Damian is a brilliant presence on Twitter.

    @MobyDickatSea is also brilliant on

    Twitter.

    The Moby-Dick Big Read. Damian recommends

    chapter 3, The Spouter-Inn, read by Nigel Williams.

    Ron Swanson on Moby-Dick.

    John Donne: To His Mistress Going to

    Bed.

    The Time I Spent on a Commercial Whaling Ship Totally Changed My Perspective

    of the World.

    Rockwell Kent’s illustrations for Moby-Dick.

    Support The Spouter-Inn on Patreon and you

    can join us on a members-only Slack where we will happily keep chatting with
    you about Moby-Dick.

    46 min
  • 12. Moby-Dick.

    But I now leave my cetological System standing thus unfinished, even as the

    great Cathedral of Cologne was left, with the crane still standing upon the
    top of the uncompleted tower. For small erections may be finished by their
    first architects; grand ones, true ones, ever leave the copestone to
    posterity. God keep me from ever completing anything. This whole book is but a
    draught—nay, but the draught of a draught. Oh Time, Strength, Cash, and
    Patience!

    Moby-Dick; or, The Whale is a massive book.

    It’s a story about obsession, an encyclopedia of whale facts, and an
    unexpected love story. It’s also the source of the name of our podcast! Chris
    and Suzanne could talk about Herman Melville’s magnum opus for hours (and
    indeed, those who support the show on Patreon
    will get to hear some parts of their discussion that didn’t make the final
    edit).

    Show Notes.

    Moby-Dick; or, The Whale.

    [Gutenberg.
    Bookshop.] An annotated
    version.

    Audiobooks of Moby-Dick: Librivox. The Anthony Heald reading. The, uh,

    Burt Reynolds version.

    The audiobook for The Autobiography of Malcolm X.

    Whale Whale Whale, a Moby-Dick podcast.

    Moby-Dick Big Read.

    Moby-Dick marathon reading.

    Herman Melville Was Also a Failed Poet.

    Paul Gilroy: Refusing race and salvaging the

    human.

    How Toni Morrison Hunts the White

    Whale.

    Next time: Virginia Woolf’s To the Lighthouse.

    [Public domain in some countries, where the text and an
    audiobook are available.]

    Support The Spouter-Inn on Patreon and

    hear bonus bits of this conversation that didn’t quite make the edit but which
    we think are still neat.

    1 hr
  • 11. The Autobiography of Malcolm X.

    I want to say before I go on that I have never previously told anyone my

    sordid past in detail. I haven't done it now to sound as though I might be
    proud of how bad, how evil, I was. But people are always speculating—why am I
    as I am? To understand that of any person, his whole life, from birth, must be
    reviewed. [...] The full story is the best way that I know to have it seen, and
    understood, that I had sunk to the very bottom of the American white man's
    society when—soon now, in prison—I found Allah and the religion of Islam and
    it completely transformed my life.

    The Autobiography of Malcolm X (as told to

    Alex Haley) emerges from a specific time and place and yet, despite feeling
    very much of that moment, still resonates with issues that American culture is
    dealing with today—and is still a powerfully written book. Chris and Suzanne
    discuss its historical context, the formal questions of autobiography, writing
    to be read by wildly different audiences, conversion narratives, and what
    Malcolm X might have made of today’s America.

    Show Notes.

    The Autobiography of Malcolm X.

    [Bookshop.] (Weirdly, there
    doesn’t seem to be an audiobook?!)

    Alex Haley’s Playboy interview with Malcolm

    X, which led to the book.

    50 Years Later, The Autobiography of Malcolm X Is Still a Must-Read.

    Solving for X: Malcolm X and White

    Readers, an article which is at times incisive, at times problematic.

    The Explosive Chapter Left Out of Malcolm X’s

    Autobiography (with images of the co-edited manuscript).

    A recent exhibit of the unpublished chapters: Only After the Deepest

    Darkness: The “Lost” Chapter & Manuscript of The Autobiography of Malcolm
    X.

    Next episode: Moby-Dick

    [Gutenberg,
    Librivox].

    Support The Spouter-Inn on Patreon to help

    us make the show—and join our members-only Slack!

    55 min
  • 10b. Bonus: Peter Coviello on Leaves of Grass.

    But things that don’t have sex acts in them, like his care for the soldiers

    in the bedroom, are not, for that, non-erotic—are not, for that, scrubbed
    clean of anything like sex. And that, for him, is super important. [It’s] why
    he wouldn’t be happy with the taxonomical divisions that come out, that say, a
    straight person is not the person who desires all women, but desires no
    men—that’s a straight man. The cleaving of desire into these taxonomically
    clarified little poles goes against much of what he thought desire was.

    Another bonus episode! This time we’re joined by Peter

    Coviello, professor of
    English at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Peter studies nineteenth-century American literature, the history of sexuality, and queer studies—so it
    will be no surprise that he has thought a lot about Walt Whitman. His most
    recent academic book is Tomorrow’s Parties: Sex and the Untimely in
    Nineteenth-Century America, which was a finalist for
    the Lambda Award in LGBT Studies. We talk with Peter about nineteenth-century
    taxonomies of sexuality, Whitman’s caring for wounded soldiers in the Civil
    War, his understanding of nationalism and the American project, how he does
    and does not fit into his era, and the singular delights of his poetry.

    Show Notes.

    Peter Coviello on Twitter.

    Peter’s book, Tomorrow’s Parties: Sex and the Untimely in Nineteenth-Century

    America.

    Peter was also a guest on an episode of This Is Your

    Mixtape.

    Memoranda During the War, which Peter edited. (Or

    at the Walt Whitman
    Archive.)

    Whitman’s letter to the parents of Erastus

    Haskell.

    Vigil Strange.

    John Addington

    Symonds.

    A Woman Waits for Me.

    From Pent-up Aching Rivers.

    “This hour I tell things in confidence...” from Song of

    Myself part 19.

    Whoever You Are Holding Me Now in

    Hand.

    The Eighteenth Presidency.

    The Sleepers.

    “My fire-lock lean’d in the corner...” from Song of

    Myself part 10.

    Democratic

    Vistas.

    As Adam, Early in the Morning.

    Peter’s upcoming book will be about Mormonism and

    secularism.

    You can support The Spouter-Inn on Patreon.

    50 min
  • 10. Leaves of Grass.

    Full of life now, compact, visible,

    I, forty years old the eighty-third year of The States,
    To one a century hence, or any number of centuries hence,
    To you yet unborn these, seeking you.

    When you read these I that was visible am become invisible,

    Now it is you, compact, visible, realizing my poems, seeking me,
    Fancying how happy you were if I could be with you and become your comrade;
    Be it as if I were with you. (Be not too certain but I am now with you.)

    It’s Walt Whitman’s 200th birthday today! Suzanne and Chris are celebrating by

    rereading Leaves of Grass, the book of poetry
    that Whitman kept writing, revising, and expanding throughout his life. With
    its ecstatic rhythms, its vigorous celebration of the body and of freedom, and
    its dreams of collectivity through diversity, Whitman’s poetry can be
    compelling, even overwhelming. And even when the book doesn’t quite live up to
    our hopes and dreams, it offers a path beyond itself.

    Show Notes.

    Leaves of Grass. [Project

    Gutenberg.
    Librivox.
    Bookshop.]

    The Walt Whitman Archive also contains the

    complete text(s).

    Some curious details about the first printing of Leaves of

    Grass.

    The most famous section of Christopher Smart’s “Jubilate

    Agno”.

    Walt Whitman reading “America”.

    (Though there is some controversy about the authenticity of the

    recording.)

    Mark Twain wrote on “The Whitman Controversy” (about Whitman’s alleged obscenity).

    When Wilde Met Whitman.

    Whitman Noir.

    Some of the poems we quote:

    • Full of Life Now

    • Whoever You Are Holding Me Now in

      Hand

    • To a Stranger

      -America

      • I Sing the Body Electric (final

        section; later, sections 7 and 8)

      • Song of Myself (sections 2 and 5)

      • Spontaneous Me

      • The Sleepers

      • Me Imperturbe

      • First O Songs for a Prelude

      • Vigil Strange I Kept on the Field

      • The Wound-Dresser

      • When Lilacs Last in the Door-Yard

        Bloom’d

      • O Captain! My Captain!

        Responses to Whitman:

        • Federico García Lorca: Oda a Walt

          Whitman
          [English
          translation]

        • Pablo Neruda: Oda a Walt

          Whitman [English
          translation]

        • Allen Ginsberg: A Supermarket in

          California

        • Mark Doty: Letter to Walt

          Whitman

        • Langston Hughes: I,

          Too

          Paul Hindemith set a requiem with When Lilacs Last in the Door-Yard

          Bloom’d.

          Mark Doty reads Song of Myself (and

          more).

          Next episode: The Autobiography of Malcolm X.

          You can support The Spouter-Inn and gain a

          bunch of perks through Patreon.

          58 min
        • 9b. Bonus: Sarah Chamberlain on Frankenstein.

          Not only is it a movie that deal with death, which is a huge concept for

          children, but it deals with it in a kind of fun way, but also a way that makes
          it a little scary and makes it a little OK, and I think that children
          [experiencing] that might help them be ready for scary things that could
          happen later on.

          A bonus to our episode on Mary Shelley’s

          Frankenstein. We are joined by Sarah
          Chamberlain, one of the hosts of fellow Megaphonic podcast A Part Of Our
          Scare-itage. Sarah is deeply familiar with the
          world of horror movies, and Frankenstein is her favourite book—so we were
          excited to talk with her about a few of the many, many, many, many film
          adaptations that have been made. What gets changed, what gets added, and what
          audiences are addressed in these films? Also, what kind of horror is
          appropriate for children?

          Show Notes.

          Sarah’s podcast on Canadian horror films, A Part Our Our Scare-itage.

          Richard Brinsley Peake: Presumption; or, the Fate of

          Frankenstein.

          Frankenstein (1910).

          Frankenstein

          (1931).

          The Bride of

          Frankenstein (1935).

          Penny Dreadful

          (2014–2016).

          Young Frankenstein (1974).

          Frankenweenie

          (2012).

          The Terminator (1984).

          Terminator 2: Judgment

          Day (1991).

          That last film Sarah mentions.

          You can support The Spouter-Inn and gain a bunch

          of perks through Patreon.

          47 min
        • 9. Frankenstein.

          It was on a dreary night of November, that I beheld the accomplishment of my

          toils. With an anxiety that almost amounted to agony, I collected the
          instruments of life around me, that I might infuse a spark of being into the
          lifeless thing that lay at my feet. It was already one in the morning; the
          rain pattered dismally against the panes, and my candle was nearly burnt out,
          when, by the glimmer of the half-extinguished light, I saw the dull yellow eye
          of the creature open; it breathed hard, and a convulsive motion agitated its
          limbs.

          Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein is a story that

          seems familiar to everyone—even people who haven’t read the novel (or seen any
          of the movie adaptations). But the novel fleshes out the story that everyone
          is familiar with (a scientist creates a creature out of dead parts, releasing
          a force of havoc and destruction upon the world) in a number of intriguing
          ways. Suzanne and Chris discuss how the novel tackles creation, parenting,
          corporeality, nature, and death—as well as how thoroughly it is connected to
          Paradise Lost, and why it has inspired
          so many adaptations.

          Show Notes.

          We read the original 1818 text of Frankenstein.

          It‘s also available on Project
          Gutenberg or as a free audiobook on
          Librivox.
          [Bookshop.]

          The New Annotated Frankenstein.

          Frankenstein: Annotated for Scientists, Engineers, and Creators of All

          Kinds.

          The Strange and Twisted Life of

          Frankenstein, which includes some information about racialized
          imaginings of the creature.

          The Science of Life and Death in Mary Shelley’s

          Frankenstein.

          Next time: Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass. Also on

          Gutenberg and
          Librivox.

          You can support The Spouter-Inn (and the rest

          of the Megaphonic podcasts) through Patreon.
          Thanks!

          59 min
        • 8b. Bonus: Anthony Oliveira on Paradise Lost.

          I’m sort of obsessed with Adam as a character, he’s like a wonderful golden

          retriever of a man, so besotted by Eve and so perplexed by his own love of
          her. But he turns to Raphael and is like, “Is that what it’s like in Heaven?”
          And Raphael has this moment where he blushes, and then describes the extreme
          gay orgy that is the permanent Heaven experience.

          A bonus to our episode on Paradise Lost! We

          are joined by Anthony Oliveira, a writer,
          film curator, and cultural critic who received his PhD in English from the
          University of Toronto. He is also the host of The Devil’s
          Party, a podcast that has been slowly and
          lovingly working its way through Paradise Lost, a hundred or so lines each
          week. Anthony joins us to talk about queer and trans readings of Paradise
          Lost, the nitty gritty about Milton’s theology, and making Paradise Lost
          accessible to readers that often have been excluded.

          Show Notes.

          Anthony Oliveira on Twitter (a must-follow) and

          on the web.

          Anthony has a beautiful new memoir on

          Hazlitt.

          A quick primer on monism.

          William Empson: Milton’s God.

          C.S. Lewis: Out of the Silent Planet.

          Isaac Asimov’s Annotated Paradise Lost.

          John Milton: “Methought I saw my late espoused

          saint”.

          Philip Pullman: The Amber Spyglass, etc.

          (We all make mistakes: “arma” is the first word of Aeneid, not the

          Iliad.)

          49 min
        • 8. Paradise Lost.

                                   Farewel happy Fields

          Where Joy for ever dwells: Hail horrours, hail
          Infernal world, and thou profoundest Hell
          Receive thy new Possessor: One who brings
          A mind not to be chang’d by Place or Time.
          The mind is its own place, and in itself
          Can make a Heav’n of Hell, a Hell of Heav’n.
                                      [...] Here at least
          We shall be free; th’ Almighty hath not built
          Here for his envy, will not drive us hence:
          Here we may reign secure, and in my choyce
          To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
          Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav’n.

          John Milton’s Paradise Lost uses haunting, powerful poetry to retell the

          biblical story of Adam and Eve’s sin and exile from the Garden of Eden. But
          Chris and Suzanne still struggle with Milton’s personality and theology. They
          discuss the characters, including a famously compelling depiction of Satan;
          Milton’s use of other texts, including the Metamorphoses; and the text’s
          troubling gender politics.

          Show Notes.

          John Milton’s Paradise Lost. [Project

          Gutenberg,
          Bookshop.]

          The Tree of Knowledge, by Eva Figes, is a novel

          about Milton’s daughter Deborah [NYTimes
          review].

          Thoughts on Milton and his

          daughters.

          More images of Milton and his

          daughters.

          Everybody wants a piece of

          Milton.

          Gustave Doré’s illustrations for Paradise

          Lost.

          William Blake’s illustrations for Paradise

          Lost.

          Blake’s illuminated book Milton: A

          Poem.

          Next episode: Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein (the 1818

          version). Also on Project Gutenberg.

          58 min

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