Welcome to Season 7 and the 139th episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action. In this episode, host Brent Sutton tackles a question that sits right at the heart of improvement, learning, and safety: Are we evolving… revolutionizing… or truly innovating?

In this episode, he will unpack what he calls the Triad of Safety: Evolution, Revolution, and Innovation, three forces that often get blurred together but actually drive very different outcomes in organizations. 

Key takeaway:

If we don’t know which problem we’re solving, we risk using evolutionary tools for revolutionary challenges, and that’s when organizations end up polishing systems that are already obsolete. 

Todd Conklin Podcast 584 on Patient Safety Innovation: https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-2j4z3-1a2ffa9

Tickets for Todd Conklin Conference in Sante Fe: https://swiy.co/CWS March 31st/April 1st 2026.