The Trump administration’s family-separation policy had a profound effect on the immigration system. Caitlin Dickerson, staff writer at The Atlantic, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss her 18-month deep dive into the policies and after-effects of separating children from their families at the border, including the first on-record interview about the policy with former U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen and former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly. Her article is called “We Need to Take Away Children.”