Atlas Acopian makes. He makes ideas that use all their might to capture the attention of the Internet. From Amazon Dating (a website where you can shop for a date), Scrubhub (Pornhub but for cleaning your hands), an 18-hole mini golf course that can fit in a tiny backyard, and some sweet video direction for companies like AWAL.

In my plea to strategists to make - and not just think, I wanted to talk with Atlas about what gets his mind going.

We recorded this as a livestream on 13 May, 2020. There was a little lag which is why, every now and then, we speak over each other. But it’s still worth a listen.