Get Hetty's crispy rice recipe—and links to her favorite cookbooks on The Dinner Plan's free newsletter on Substack. This week's guest, Hetty Lui McKinnon, is a frequently-mentioned favorite on the show. She's written five cookbooks and contributes frequently to NYT Cooking. On this episode, host Maggie Hoffman talks to Hetty about the hardest part of weeknight dinners, her secret love for out-of-season tomatoes, and how to keep winter salads exciting. Listen for vegetarian dinner ideas and a smart way of thinking about your weeknight meal rotation.

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