The Tension of Emergence: Thriving in a world that remakes, not breaks

The Vowing Mind: Returning to Relational Intimacy in Times of Trouble with Joshin Byrnes


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How can you stay present to a world that breaks your heart open—without hardening or turning away? What is right action when there is no right answer?

In this episode, Jennifer talks with Joshin Byrnes—Zen teacher, former AIDS activist, and founder of Bread Loaf Mountain Zen Community—for a deeply honest conversation on his evolving expressions of activism and spirituality as he wrestles with and practices ethical action in a time of trouble.  

Together, they explore:

  • Growing out of enemy oriented and dehumanizing activism
  • “Bearing witness” as essential practice in a culture of separation 
  • How letting go of fixed ideas creates healing action 
  • The Zen principle of vowing mind as a compass for ethical responsiveness.

Come join us for a slow and tender dialogue about how to deepen your relational intimacy, practice and ethical inquiry as you taste the ache of being human. 

Content Note: This episode includes a story that references suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling, support is available. Resources are included below. 

Links & resources—

  • Learn more about Joshin Byrne’s work at Bread Loaf Mountain Zen
  • Zen Peacemakers 
  • Get Jennifer’s Substack Newsletter
  • Follow Jennifer on Instagram or LinkedIn
  • Canada Suicide Crisis Helpline: 9-8-8 or https://988.ca/
  • US Crisis Helpline: 9-8-8 or https://988lifeline.org/
  • International suicide resources can be found at https://findahelpline.com


Gratitude for this show’s theme song Inside the House, composed by the talented Yukon musician, multi-instrumentalist and sound artist Jordy Walker. Artwork by the imaginative writer, filmmaker and artist Jon Marro.

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