What Works

The Wages of Hierarchy


Listen Later

On March 11, the 5-time World’s Best Restaurant, Noma, began a 3-month Los Angeles residency. The vanguard establishment of New Nordic Cuisine, was finally available to Americans without an international flight. All-inclusive bookings—sold out well ahead of opening day—went for $1500 per person.

Diners, arriving in luxury vehicles with tinted windows, anticipated the hyper-local, painstakingly presented menu designed by Noma’s celebrated chef René Redzepi. But first, they had to make it past the protesters. They held signs that said, “Noma broke me,” “Prestige is not a paycheck,” and “No Michelin stars for violence.”

The allegations of psychological and physical abuse by Noma’s Redzepi weren’t exactly news. They came to light in drips and drabs over the last decade or so. What’s more, the hostile and often violent environment of commercial kitchens at all levels of service has become fodder for TV and film. But Noma LA provided an event to organize around, a point of focus for demanding attention, action, and restitution.


There are a bunch of reasons I wanted to dive into this story on What Works. First, this is a labor story. It’s about what’s acceptable and what’s not when it comes to how we work and why we work. Second, and closer to my literal home, it’s a topic that my husband Sean is super passionate about, having spent the bulk of his working years in restaurants before I rudely relocated him to central Pennsylvania.


Last Thursday, I texted him a link to one of many stories about Noma by New York Times food writer Julia Moskin, and said, “We need to do an episode.” So here we are.


Sean and I talked through his own experience in restaurants, his long-time interest in the Noma project, what we understand of the past abuse at Noma, the response from Redzepi, and how this all ties in with the constructions of work-life we all experience.


Spoiler: it’s a story about hierarchy and making sure everyone is in the “right” place.

Footnotes:

  • Read the essay version of this episode.
  • Read Julia Moskin's reporting at the New York Times (all gift links):
    • On the abuse allegations
    • On industry responses
    • On René Redzepi's decision to leave
  • The Manifesto for the New Nordic Kitchen
  • "Noma Abuse" website created by One Fair Wage
  • "What Noma did next" by Kieran Morris in The Guardian (2020)
  • Making It by Ellen Meiser
  • "Culture of the Kitchen" by René Redzepi in Lucky Peach (2015)
  • "Essays on Marx's Theory of Value" by I. I. Rubin
  • Emergent Strategy by adrienne maree brown
  • The Story of Capital by David Harvey
  • (00:00) - Most Expensive Meal
  • (05:56) - A Brief History of Noma
  • (10:40) - Work-Life in the Kitchen
  • (15:47) - The Brigade System
  • (23:08) - Abuse Allegations Against Rene Redzepi
  • (48:54) - Unpaid Labor
  • ★ Support this podcast ★
    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    What WorksBy Tara McMullin

    • 4.8
    • 4.8
    • 4.8
    • 4.8
    • 4.8

    4.8

    236 ratings


    More shows like What Works

    View all
    This American Life by This American Life

    This American Life

    91,216 Listeners

    Hidden Brain by Hidden Brain, Shankar Vedantam

    Hidden Brain

    43,632 Listeners

    The Tim Ferriss Show by Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig

    The Tim Ferriss Show

    16,184 Listeners

    The Moth by The Moth

    The Moth

    27,024 Listeners

    Creative Pep Talk by Andy J. Pizza

    Creative Pep Talk

    2,010 Listeners

    Good Life Project by Jonathan Fields / Acast

    Good Life Project

    3,378 Listeners

    How I Built This with Guy Raz by Guy Raz | Wondery

    How I Built This with Guy Raz

    30,206 Listeners

    The Lazy Genius Podcast by Kendra, The Lazy Genius

    The Lazy Genius Podcast

    6,706 Listeners

    The Goal Digger Podcast | Top Business and Marketing Podcast for Creatives, Entrepreneurs, and Women in Business by Jenna Kutcher

    The Goal Digger Podcast | Top Business and Marketing Podcast for Creatives, Entrepreneurs, and Women in Business

    12,080 Listeners

    The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett by DOAC

    The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

    8,841 Listeners

    How To! with Mike Pesca by Peach Fish Projects

    How To! with Mike Pesca

    1,945 Listeners

    Raising Good Humans by Dear Media, Aliza Pressman

    Raising Good Humans

    1,886 Listeners

    The Clearing with Katherine May by Katherine May

    The Clearing with Katherine May

    156 Listeners

    Handsome by Headgum

    Handsome

    13,704 Listeners

    Culture Study Podcast by Anne Helen Petersen

    Culture Study Podcast

    718 Listeners