This week, Kelly talks with Reuters reporter and author Ernest Scheyder about critical minerals and his new book: "The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives."

Ernest Scheyder is a senior correspondent with Reuters covering critical minerals and the global energy transition. "The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power our Lives," was published in early 2025 by One Signal Publishers/Atria Books. It was longlisted for the 2024 National Book Award and was named the American Energy Society's Energy Book of the Year. He previously wrote about the U.S. shale revolution – drawing on a two-year stint based in oil-rich North Dakota – as well as politics and the environment.

Find the book on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/War-Below-Lithium-Copper-Global/dp/1668011808/

Find more of Ernest's work here: https://www.reuters.com/authors/ernest-scheyder/

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Produced by Abdalla Nasef and Freddie Mallinson.

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