The Wild Minds Podcast

Episode 32 is the last episode in Season 4! Marina is pulling together some of her thoughts about the last few weeks, and Season 5 will begin on 17th June.

In this Episode Marina discusses:

• What's Ecocide and Why Does It Matter? (https://www.stopecocide.earth/become)
• How may our hidden School curriculum shape environmental connection?
• The educational value of stones, leaves, mud and sticks for the early years.
• The introduction of Ecocide Bill in the UK in November 2023.
• How do we educate children for a sustainable culture?
• The scope for using freely available natural resources to teach.
• Revising punishment, rewards, praise, and grief.
• Balancing our life at the expense of not harming others.

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-32-love-grief-and-the-call-for-ecocide-law/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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Mentioned in this episode:

The Advanced Certificate in Forest School and Outdoor Learning

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/certificate/

In Episode 31, My guest Clare Caro and I get to explore if the ‘recipe of school’ is synonymous with education. Clare works as a co-director of the social enterprise Root-and-Branch Out, and with the local home-educating community. 

We dive into:

• What is home education and Unschooling (coined by John Holt)?·        
• Is it legal to home school, ‘educating otherwise’ in the United Kingdom?·        
• Is the ‘school recipe’ synonymous with education?
• How we adults also need to ‘de-school’ ourselves.·        
• What are our values and what about going to university?
• The use of manipulation techniques like punishment, rewards & growling!·        
• The hidden curriculum – how adults treat children.·        
• Growing Divergent thinkers & convergent thinkers with useful examples ·        
• The impact of language on your survival brain
• Our unconscious manipulation and support of ecocide·        
• If we want to teach eco-literacy, we need to stop teaching ecocide e.g extreme use of plastic in schools.·        
• An insight into Clare’s outdoors ‘Partnership model’.

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-31-exploring-education-and-unschooling/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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In Episode 30, Marina is exploring how we exile certain feelings to our unconscious, and how much we need them back, when we are ready, to be able to feel our grief and to avoid looking for relief in distractions, buying things, blaming others, so that we don’t abandon our own wild dreams and values. 

Humans are certainly very complex, and I am very interested in how our suppression of feelings is connected to the suppression of our wild ‘natural’ nature, which includes expression of emotions. 

In this Episode Marina discusses:

• Emotions are very rational responses! Why is expressing them so important?
• What is neurobiology? How do minds connect our body and brain!
• Introducing the work of Neuroscientist Jaak Panskseep – the 7 circuits within our body.
• Meeting our outcasts and parts that we exile and how they operate within us!
• How our ‘inner wildness’ holds the key to much treasure if we can befriend the deep feelings we have locked away.
• The discovery of alarmed aloneness and some options I may have to welcome home some of our most hidden parts.
• In our animal human nature, our sensuous bodies, fully embodied, are expressive, and curious – all reflecting this wilder, freer energy.
• How do we reclaim our own needs and build the nurturing inner adult?
• Giving the opportunity to master skills and build our own capacity and believe we will still be loved.
• How is your ‘goodness’ measured – does this help you live fulfilling wholesome lives?

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/there-is-nothing-irrational-about-emotions/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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My guest today is neuroscience educator, Sarah Peyton, who is an author, an international constellations facilitator, Certified Trainer of Nonviolent Communication, and someone who has spent many years integrating constellations, brain science and the use of resonant language to heal trauma.

In this episode we dive into:

• Flight and fight and a less known distress response ‘alarmed aloneness’ – or separation distress.
• We linked loneliness as a killer and the stressor of aloneness – the modern culture of ‘grow up’, ‘don’t cry’, ‘you can do it on our own’ messages.
• Re-affirming that our biology says we are not supposed to be alone, and healthy relationships are essential. As practitioners or parents showing our delight in our children, signals that they matter and are cared for!
• It is in fact a radical act to find warmth for us and others, not evaluating or measuring others, rather appreciating, and connecting with others.
• What does attachment mean for our health? The astounding statistics surrounding avoidant attachment and how stress increases our sense of aloneness and internal negative dialogue and self-worth. 
• We need to be securely attached! Secure attachment is when we bring the people we love inside us – and are able to have warmth for ourselves.
• As we talked about the grief of loss of the health of the planet, Sarah, reminds us that healing our trauma, will provide joy, play, and love, which we need to have to stay present to what is happening, and to have the creative energy to take action together.
• The safer we feel the more parts are able contribute – activism arises from creative response – link to August response in the UK with Prime Minister that Sarah referred to: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/video/2023/aug/03/greenpeace-activists-black-fabric-rishi-sunak-mansion-oil-protest-video
• We create safety by genuinely liking our students, we are inviting each nervous system and brain.

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-29-sarah-peyton-podcast/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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Mentioned in this episode:

The Advanced Certificate in Forest School and Outdoor Learning

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/certificate/

In Episode 28, Marina is feeling more reflective as she revisits some of the themes from her conversation with Peter Owen Jones last week.

In this Episode Marina contemplates:

• A sense of sanctuary and intimacy with the non-human world, and ‘place’.
• The celebration of springtime and how the greening of our land informs our practice.
• The inner compass that pulls us home and helps us navigate the journey.
• Themes of love and punishment and how we exile parts that we find difficult to ‘own’ as part of ourselves.  How do we bring them home?
• My curiosity about the teachings of Jesus on love and forgiveness – and my interest in other figures in history that we can learn from.
• How we value others and be present with who they are (intrinsic value), not how they behave (extrinsic value).   

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-28-developing-our-inner-compass/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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My guest today is Peter Owen Jones, who is an ecological thinker and activist, as well as a celebrated BBC TV presenter.

In this episode we dive into:

• Are your dancing days ever done?
• What gets sacrificed for order?
• Melancholia as a teacher
• Plug into love as our main human job.
• The call of the religions of love and similarities rather than differences – are our hearts different?
• Jesus as a radical teacher of love!
• Life is not meant to be easy, and we need to love in the face of pain
• A rewording of the ‘Lord’s Prayer’
• The tough one is loving yourself.
• Readings from 'Conversations with Nature' p.g 69 & 73.

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-27-peter-owen-jones/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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In Episode 26, Marina looks at:

The importance of knowing that our behaviour does not really reflect what is going on internally and that most of the time we are not aware of our how our unmet needs are fuelling the behaviour that we need support for, not punishment.

• Behaviour is an outward expressions of feelings, thoughts, needs and intentions (see Alfie Kohn’s work).
• How do we want our children to turn out?
• What’s the cost of a punitive and controlling approach?
• What does punishment really teach us?
• Healthy relationships are fundamental to well-being.

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/25-behaviour-is-communication/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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Mentioned in this episode:

The Advanced Certificate in Forest School and Outdoor Learning

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/certificate/

To kick off Season 4, Marina is speaking with Jon Cree, who is the co-author of their book, “The Essential Guide to Forest School and Nature Pedagogy”. 

They dive into:

• What underpins a healthy model of education?
• How love really is an essential ingredient.
• A new model of partnership rather than domination
• Discovering wholehearted learning
• The role of love and understanding our needs
• Neurobiology & our nervous systems
• How we do this in our practice

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-25-why-love-matters-with-jon-cree/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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In Episode 24, Marina looks at:

• Our mind's potential
• What is your Ecological Niche?
• Embracing the Nature-Centric Model.
• Choosing where to direct your attention.
• Fostering a quieter mind.
• Action as an antidote to anxiety.
• Humans as net contributors.
• What is the next moment of experience?

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-24-why-is-experiential-learning-needed-in-education/

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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Season 3, Episode 23:

In this week's podcast, I'm chatting to Roger Duncan, an eco-systemic psychotherapist within the NHS.

For over 30 years, he worked within the nature therapy world, was one of the pioneer tutors of the Ruskin Mill Education Trust, is a wilderness passage guide and developed a UK based Eco-psychotherapy course called 'Reclaiming our Indigenous Relationship with Nature'.

We dive into:

• What is an eco-systemic psychotherapist?
• How our world is made up of systems and how we think about systems.
• The impact of modernity and colonization.
• Tentacular thinking and re-imagining what it is to be human.
• The importance of the imaginal.
• Listening to what young people are saying.
• Valuing Indigenous knowledge.
• The Circle of Courage Model.
• The Embodied, heart-felt process.

Show Notes:

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-23-roger-duncan

Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com

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Mentioned in this episode:

The Advanced Certificate in Forest School and Outdoor Learning

https://theoutdoorteacher.com/certificate/