It's hard to win these days. Not only do we have worries about war, we've got worries over worries about war. Is the Biden administration's foreign policy dangerously cautious? That's what Peter and James discuss – and argue over – with our guest, AEI's Kori Schake.

The hosts (minus Rob, who was off podcasting elsewhere...) also chat about Italy's Giorgia Meloni; James gets peeved, and it'a lots of fun; they do some speculating of their own about Nord Stream; and Peter recollects on the time he had dinner with a mega-celeb and had no idea.

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