It's a movie about a big, messy sweetie who can't get out of his own way and all of the folks who suffer as a result. We talk The Wrestler, alcoholic dads, and more with the wonderful Gaby Dunn.

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We made a playlist to accompany this episode! It's comprised of songs that come to mind when we all think about this movie.

Why Are Dads is a show in which hosts Sarah Marshall and Alex Steed attempt to understand what the hell it means to be the grown children of dads and other dad-like figures. And, as they do with all difficult subject matter, they do so by looking through a pop culture lens.

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You can find producer and music director Carolyn Kendrick's music here. She's also on Twitter.

Ethan Hawkins of Corner House accompanied her on her rendition of The Wrestler.

Fresh Lesh produces the beats for our episodes.

Abigail Swartz of Gray Day Studio designed our logo!