Ahead of Zoe Lyons interview with Rich this week, here's a "Pod Drop" of "LET'S TALK ABOUT THE HUSBAND" podcast, where reality TV fanatic, Stephen Bailey is trying to prove to Radio 4 favourite, Zoe Lyons that there are so many life and societal lessons to be learnt from reality television. In this episode, Zoe and Stephen are talking about the Chrisleys who have just been sentenced for fraud and their own run ins with the police.

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