Theology in the Raw

This is a different sort of TITR episode. Just three dudes (but mainly Jay and Brian) bantering around about Rock and Roll. Brian Zahnd is a pastor and writer. Jay Newman is a pitmaster and BBQ artist. Both are avid students of music, specifically Rock and Roll, as you'll see. I love Rock and Roll and love the history behind it all. As far as theology goes, we don't really talk about a theology of music, but Jay does give a rather brilliant overview of why Rock music is theologically necessary toward the end of our conversation. Artists we discuss include Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Rush, Elvis, U2, Nirvana, Eric Clapton, Motley Cru, and many others that I can't remember. 

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Paul is a Failed Calvinist Minister. He actually is a very faithful and thoughtful CRC pastor, who is a theological cultural critic who brings to bear loads of pastoral and theological wisdom to his ongoing analysis of our cultural moment. This conversation is very wide ranging, as we discuss the post-election period and how the church can navigate our very unique--and in many ways, groundbreaking--historical situation. 

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0:00 Introduction

1:53 Will we be naked in heaven?  

8:42 Are there any ways that you observe American masculinity norms would benefit from a more diverse cultural perspective?

12:47 Who do you think wrote Hebrews?

14:20 What is your view of David and Bathsheba--rape rather than consensual? Couldn't she have resisted?

16:52 I am happy and flourishing in our church. My spouse is not. What do we do?

19:20 John 15:3...we're not called to be like Christ in this way right? What are your thoughts?

23:22 Do you have suggestions for how to talk to a spouse who gets hostile with key topics when genuine curiousity increases tension and elicits confrontational responses?

27:55 Old earth or young earth?

30:11 Thoughts on Luigi Mangione and the national response? Babylon seems like they want to free him. Is motive important?

33:13 Solomon's great wisdom didn't help him in the end. Shouldn't we read it through the lense that Solomon wandered from God?

36:51 Leviticus 17 prohibits eating blood. Jesus tells us to drink his blood. Can you reconcile this?

38:16 How did Christ's incarnation, death and resurrection change anything besides the need for the sacrifice? There's still so much injustice and suffering in the world.

42:08 "Leadership" has different secular and biblical meanings. Does the word "authority" differ in the Bible as well?

45:43 The new church I attended had a kids service with raffle and door prizes--it felt "icky." What are your thoughts?

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Professor Nancy Pearcey is the author of Love Thy Body, The Soul of Science, Saving Leonardo, Finding Truth, Total Truth, and the most recently released: The Toxic War on Masculinity: How Christianity Reconciles the Sexes, which is the topic of our fascinating conversation. Professor Pearcey is professor and scholar in residence at Houston Christian University. She has been quoted in The New Yorker and Newsweek, highlighted as one of the five top women apologists by Christianity Today, and hailed in The Economist as "America's preeminent evangelical Protestant female intellectual."

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2024 has been a good year for Theology in the Raw, and we're looking to make 2025 a GREAT year! In this first of the year, I look at listener statistics and demographics, the most popular episodes, future guests, the exiles25 conference, the mission of TITR, and much more. 

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Eric Hoke is the Founder and Director of Business Development at I Help Pastors Get Jobs. He helps pastors and ministry leaders build sustainable ministries without money stress. Eric is also the author of Market Street Pastor: Ministry Sustainability without Money Stress,which forms the backdrop to our conversation. 

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Dr. Michelle Lee-Barnewall (Ph.D. Notre Dame) is an award-winning author of Neither Complementarian nor Egalitarian and Surprised by the Parables. Her most recent book is A Longing to Belong: Reflections on Faith, Identity, and Race, which forms the backdrop to our conversation. She has served on the editorial board for the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society and the Bulletin for Biblical Research and has been on the Board of Directors for the Institute for Biblical Research. When not writing or teaching, she loves to spend time with her three wonderful grandchildren.

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Michael J. Gorman holds the Raymond E. Brown Chair in Biblical Studies and Theology at St. Mary's Seminary & University in Baltimore. He has published 20 books and dozens of articles, including the highly acclaimed and, in my opinion, necessary book for interpreting the Book of Revelation called Reading Revelation Responsibly. 

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Dr. Greg Boyd is the primary teaching pastor and vision-caster for Woodland Hills Church and is the author of many books including my favorite: The Myth of a Christian Nation. Greg is also known for his love of yoga, running, drumming, dancing and going on long walks with Gracie, his pet Morkie.

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Bonus Q&A: Middle Ground Where Kids Aren't Too Sheltered But Not Given Social Media Access, and More!

0:00 Introduction

0:42 Is there a middle ground for our kids where they aren't too sheltered, but also not given social media?

11:10 What are some notable differences between how Christianity is practiced in the US vs. Europe and other areas where Christianity isn't outlawed?

18:52 Why setup marriage in the beginning and then none in the resurrection?

22:27 Will we need reproductive and digestive organs in the new world/new resurrected bodies? 

28:45 What resources you'd recommend to better understand Judaism at the time of Jesus?

29:54 Are there any Christian communities for parents of LGBTQ children that aren't "praying the gay away?"

31:30 Thoughts on the authorship of the Torah and the gospels?

37:24. I want to get my MDiv but don't want to do online. How should I decide how to move forward?

39:09 If Israel builds a third temple and has a revival, would that change how you view prophecy?

42:16 When does saving for retirement become "building a barn" for ourselves?

46:38 Do you have any regular advent Christmas disciplines?

48:01 Why is God or hell different than a parent allowing their toddler. to run into the busy street simply because they didn't believe?

54:20 Are there any words in the Bible which would be considered cussing in its original language?

57:36 Do you think it's helpful for someone with gender dysphoria to say they're a masculine lady or a feminine man so that pronouns still match biological sex?

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