Theology in the Raw

Micah is a 23 year old female who has been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder, where she has over 100 alters (what some people might think of as personalities, though this isn’t the most accurate term). Nathan, her father, is a former Pastor. Micah was diagnosed in January 2019, which began a remarkable journey of understanding and healing. I wanted to have this conversation for at least three reasons. (1) I’m curious about lots of different things, especially kinds of people and experiences that I don’t know much about. DID is certainly one of those areas. I’m bringing almost nothing to this table. (2) I’m particularly curious about minority experiences—people and stories and experiences that most people don’t have. (3) I think there can be a lot of fear and misunderstanding, which can lead to stigmatization, around certain psychological conditions like DID—especially with movies like Split, which we’ll get into. So, I hope this raw and honest conversation will help reduce the fear, misunderstanding, and indeed the stigma surrounding Dissociative Identity Disorder and other similar experiences. 

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Jake Meador is the editor-in-chief of Mere Orthodoxy and author of multiple books. His writing has appeared in the Atlantic, Commonweal, First Things, the Dispatch, Comment, Christianity Today, and elsewhere. He lives in his hometown of Lincoln, NE with his wife and family. Our conversation is wide ranging, from culture, to history, to politics, to technology. I found Jake to be both delightful and thoughtful, especially when it comes to his analysis of culture and technology. 

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Joey is my brotha from another motha. He also has a Ph.D. in New Testament from Aberdeen University, is the Dr. Craig L. Blomberg Endowed Chair of New Testament at Denver Seminary, and is the author of several scholarly books and peer reviewed articles. His latest book is excellent: Conquerers Not Captives: Reframing Romans 7 for the Christian Life. In this conversation, we go all over the place. If you like New Testament scholarly stuff, especially the Jewish and Greco-Roman context of the NT, you'll enjoy our nerdy banter. Oh, and we do talk quite a bit about Colossians in the last half of the episode. 

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Joy serves as the Vice President for Government & Strategic Relations at the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities (CCCU). She is a graduate of Covenant College, Belhaven University, and Emory Law. On the Hill, she worked for Congressman Gary Palmer and the Center for Public Justice before coming to the CCCU. Register for the Exiles 2 day conference in Denver (Oct 4-5) here: https://theologyintheraw.com/exiles-denver/

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Last June, my family and I, along with a few other friends, visited an awesome ministry called Cherish Uganda. We were so impressed with this ministry that we decided to record a podcast on site, where we talked with one of their leaders Brent Phillips and several others from the team at Cherish Uganda. Cherish Uganda is a faith-based nonprofit organization dedicated to fostering hope & a promising future for families in need. Their mission is: To transform our community spiritually through education, healthcare, & family strengthening. Cherish is doing some amazing, holistic, and gospel-centered ministry outside of Kampala, Uganda. Please consider donating to this ministry here: https://www.cherishuganda.com/donate-1

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Dr. Austin Knuppe is an assistant professor of political science at Utah State University. For AY 2024-25 he is also a Newbigin Fellow through a joint initiative of the Carver Project and InterFaith America. Prior to Utah State, he was a postdoctoral fellow at the John Sloan Dickey Center for International Understanding at Dartmouth College. He received his Ph.D. in political science from The Ohio State University in 2019. His research interests include civilian survival during wartime, Middle East politics, and the role of religion in international politics. His first book, Surviving the Islamic State: Contention, Cooperation, and Neutrality in Wartime Iraq (Columbia University Press, 2024)

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Dr. Gavin Ortlund is a writer, theologian, and Christian apologist. Gavin serves as President of Truth Unites, a ministry which seeks to promote gospel assurance through theological depth, and serves as a Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville. Gavin holds a PhD from Fuller Theological Seminary and an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary. He’s written several books including his latest: What it Means to be Protestant: A Case for an Always-Reforming Church, which forms the basis of our conversation. But first, we talk extensively about his latest controversy over some false accusations that we made about his beliefs, how he responded, and the recent resurgence of fundamentalism in Christianity. 

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Dr. Jemar Tisby (PhD, University of Mississippi) is the author of the New York Times bestselling The Color of Compromise, the award-winning How to Fight Racism, and the recently released The Spirit of Justice. Jemar is a historian who studies race, religion, and social movements in the twentieth century and serves as a professor at Simmons College of Kentucky, a historically Black college. Jemar is the founding co-host of the Pass the Mic podcast. Find out more at jemartisby.com. In this conversation, we talk about his latest book, The Spirit of Justice, and issues related to race, the church, and society. 

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Vinoth Ramachandra from Colombo, Sri Lanka, He holds both bachelors and doctoral degrees in nuclear engineering from the University of London. He is an international lecturer and writer. Vinoth has also been involved with the Civil Rights Movement in Sri Lanka, as well as with the global Micah Network (a network of development and justice organizations) and A Rocha (a world-wide biodiversity conservation organization). He is the author of several essays, articles and books including Gods That Fail (2nd ed. 2016), Subverting Global Myths: Theology and the Public Issues that Shape Our World (2008) and Sarah’s Laughter: Doubt, Tears and Christian Hope (Langham, 2020) Register for the Exiles 2 day conference in Denver (Oct 4-5) here: https://theologyintheraw.com/exiles-denver/ 

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