TIACS and Trade Mutt are co engineered businesses that compliment each other for tradies mental health. Trade Mutt sells work clothes (and Casual) that market for TIACS and provide financial support for TIACS. TIACS (This is a Conversation Starter) provides a phone and text support service for Tradies who are struggling and for those supporting tradies.

This episode I intervew Jason Banks from TIACS about the service and the Trade Mutt Products.