Thoughts On Money [TOM]

Thoughts On Money [TOM]

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  • The Next Bear Market

    This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/42ccBWB

    In this week's Thoughts on Money, Trevor, Blaine, and Brett discuss Blaine's article, “The Next Bear Market,” which argues that a 20% market decline will happen at some point and that recent, fast recoveries (COVID, 2022, 2023 bank failures, and a short-lived 2025 ~19% drawdown) may be breeding investor complacency. They distinguish corrections (10%) from bear markets (20%), highlight how intra-year drawdowns often fade in annual returns, and emphasize the market’s interconnected participants, leverage-driven selling, and the expectation that the Fed will intervene. The group focuses on preparing through adequate liquidity and safety nets to avoid selling at the wrong time, understanding why you own assets, and emphasizing dividends and income as part of total return. They note risk surveys can misstate real behavior, advisors act as guides to help clients endure volatility, and premium returns require accepting volatility as the price of admission.

    00:00 Podcast Intro

    00:30 Why Bear Markets Happen

    03:05 Drawdowns vs Annual Returns

    05:02 Statement Pain Explained

    07:19 Too Big to Fail Mindset

    10:17 Complacency After Long Runs

    18:40 Corrections vs Bear Markets

    20:37 Risk Tolerance Reality Check

    23:04 Long Horizon Portfolio Buckets

    24:15 Focus on Dividends Not Price

    25:47 Dividends And Total Return

    26:22 Safety Nets And Inflation

    27:31 Bear Markets And Labels

    28:57 Recession Versus Bear

    29:37 Markets Versus Economy

    30:40 Why Cash Reserves Matter

    32:51 Leverage And Forced Selling

    34:24 Liquidity And Buyer Shortages

    35:24 Life Transitions And Risk

    37:00 Advisor Psychology And Coaching

    40:38 Guides Expand Risk Tolerance

    41:42 Portfolio Rules Of Thumb

    43:38 Volatility Price Of Returns

    45:32 Time Horizon Is The Edge

    46:35 Wrap Up And Disclosures

    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
    • http://thebahnsengroup.com
    • 49 min
    • If You Could Ask Just One Question

      This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/4mUGiFb

      Trevor Cummings hosts the Thoughts On Money podcast with Brett Bonecutter to discuss a due diligence hypothetical: if you could ask an advisor or investment manager only one question, it should be “How do you invest your money?” Drawing on Nassim Taleb’s “skin in the game” idea, Trevor argues behavior and portfolio holdings reveal true beliefs more than polished pitches. He recounts meeting a Twitter-famous fund manager whose personal investments didn’t match his fund strategy, reinforcing the “eat your own cooking” rule while noting it isn’t a complete substitute for full due diligence or diversification. The conversation explores aligned incentives versus fiduciary labels, Buffett’s Goldman Sachs deal requiring executives to retain shares (“buying the jockey”), 1929-era disclosure rules on insider trading, and Trevor’s real example of a near-retiree concentrated in two stocks despite claiming high confidence.

      00:00 One Question Diligence

      01:40 Skin In The Game

      02:48 Quitting Social Media

      05:31 Fund Manager Test

      09:22 Eat Your Cooking

      14:34 Buffett Deal Lesson

      18:35 Limits Of Skin

      19:56 Peace Child Setup

      20:26 Judas and the Gospel

      21:24 Peace Child Incentives

      22:21 Advisor Skin in Game

      23:42 Fiduciary vs Incentives

      25:09 Taleb Fund Cycle

      28:35 Do You Follow Advice

      31:41 1929 Insider Reporting

      35:06 Eating Own Cooking

      35:39 Diversification Wake Up

      38:04 Due Diligence Wrap

      Links mentioned in this episode:

      • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
      • http://thebahnsengroup.com
      • 42 min
      • Room for Life

        This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/4sIiJ3H

        On the Thoughts On Money Podcast, hosts Blaine Carver and Brett Bone Cutter talk with Director of Financial Planning Matt Gregory about his article “Room for Life,” inspired by running in New York City and Morgan Housel’s The Psychology of Money. Gregory explains the need to balance detailed modeling with the reality of uncertainty, using conservative assumptions (often planning to age 100) to create flexibility so plans can absorb pivots without falling apart. He shares his personal pivots from musical theater at NYU into finance, emphasizing that planning is both technical and relational storytelling. The discussion covers helping both technical and narrative-minded clients, avoiding “Armageddon” planning while building margin, using scenario ranges to provide clarity, and viewing the financial plan as a launchpad for tax, savings, and other decisions. They also stress estate planning as completing the picture—aligning assets with family and charitable goals and updating plans as life changes.

        00:00 Podcast Welcome

        00:37 Room for Life Origins

        03:12 Matt’s Career Pivot

        06:06 Storytelling in Planning

        08:40 Different Client Mindsets

        10:01 Room for Life Reframed

        11:42 Expect the Unexpected

        13:36 Optimism vs Pessimism

        15:36 Three Scenario Planning

        17:14 Clarity and Client Questions

        19:29 Puzzle Framework for Plans

        21:23 When Clients Resist Planning

        22:32 Plans Spark Motivation

        23:01 Planning Launchpad Topics

        24:24 Fixing Fragile Plans

        26:39 Budgeting Styles That Fit

        28:05 False Precision Reality

        30:30 Golf Shot Planning Analogy

        31:47 Estate Planning Completes Plan

        35:34 Evolving Estate Plans

        39:05 Mortgage Planning Perspective

        40:48 Advice Over Transactions

        42:46 Final Takeaways Wrap

        Links mentioned in this episode:

        • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
        • http://thebahnsengroup.com
        • 47 min
        • Was Jesus a Socialist?

          This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/3PHCjiB

          Host Trevor Cummings, with Brett Bonecutter and Blaine Carver, discusses whether Jesus’ teachings support socialism, prompted by Senator Raphael Warnock citing Matthew 25 in policy debates about poverty and healthcare. Brett argues socialism is often invoked as a moral claim and defines it as collective ownership and cooperative regulation to constrain private self-interest, then contends Jesus’ teachings and biblical law assume private and real property rights, voluntary exchange, merit-based reward, banking, and interest. They debate whether Jesus’ statements address individual heart posture versus prescribing systems, with Brett pointing to parables of landowners/tenants and the talents, and Jesus praising the widow’s offering, as incompatible with socialist ethics. The conversation emphasizes a “free and virtuous” society, personal responsibility and generosity as the Bible’s mechanism for caring for the poor, and invites listener feedback.

          00:00 Welcome and premise

          00:46 Holy Week motivation

          01:32 Socialism in culture

          02:36 Morality and Jesus

          04:16 Why this matters

          06:35 Warnock quote context

          09:07 Defining socialism

          11:00 Polls and capitalism label

          13:19 Heart versus system

          17:14 Parable property rights

          20:04 Rich ruler nuance

          22:29 Systemic assumptions

          23:11 Systemic Lens Debate

          24:16 Familiar Categories Not Endorsement

          25:45 Parable of the Talents

          29:50 Morality Envy and Greed

          32:55 Acts Church and Coercion

          35:54 Widows Mite and Charity

          38:08 Was Jesus a Socialist

          41:02 Too Big to Fail Tensions

          43:41 Final Thoughts and Wrap

          Links mentioned in this episode:

          • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
          • http://thebahnsengroup.com
          • 47 min
          • What Kind of Spending Makes Us Happy?

            This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/40YZ2Jj

            Trevor Cummings hosts the Thoughts and Money Podcast with Brett and Blaine as they discuss Blaine’s article, “What Kind of Spending Makes Us Happy?” using stories about kids choosing purchases, trips to Disneyland and Chuck E. Cheese, and how adult spending often runs on autopilot amid frequent transactions and subscription costs. They contrast “happiness” with more lasting “joy,” describe how budgeting should start with the “why,” and note how recurring payments and social pressure can drive unexamined spending. Drawing on research and client observations, they highlight that giving (often producing a “warm glow”) and spending on experiences and relationships tend to bring more lasting satisfaction than material goods, while buying to impress others (the “man in the car” paradox) can disappoint. The episode ends with a call to reflect on what brings joy and align spending with personal values.

            00:00 Podcast kickoff

            00:28 Kids and money

            01:38 Disney and Chuck E Cheese

            02:51 Autopilot spending

            03:58 Happiness versus joy

            07:41 Budgeting with purpose

            08:56 Subscription trap

            12:21 Privilege and gratitude

            14:16 Spending on experiences

            18:11 What research shows

            20:19 Joy of giving

            22:34 Motives for Giving

            23:02 Anonymous Giving Debate

            24:42 Warm Glow Study

            27:09 Giving as Money Habit

            27:58 Spending on Experiences

            30:33 Memory Dividends Mindset

            32:19 Second Homes and Familiarity

            35:22 Man in the Car Paradox

            41:23 Hedonic Treadmill Trap

            42:28 Align Spending with Values

            44:24 Final Wrap and Call In

            Links mentioned in this episode:

            • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
            • http://thebahnsengroup.com
            • 47 min
            • American Debtmageddon

              This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/3PkPu91

              Trevor Cummings hosts the Thoughts and Money podcast with Brett “Bone Cutter” and Blaine Carver to address recurring client fears about soaring U.S. national debt and whether “Debt-mageddon” is imminent. They clarify deficit vs. debt using a household analogy, explain how Treasury issuance funds deficits, and cite projected 2026 figures: ~$5.6T receipts vs. ~$7.4T spending, ~ $1.9T deficit, and over $1T of interest expense, with ~75% of spending mandatory. They note rates are historically low (mid-3% average vs. ~9.2% in 1986), meaning higher rates could bust the budget. Possible “solutions” (raise taxes, cut spending, grow out of it, lower rates) all have limits, so they expect a slow, Japanification-style grind rather than a sudden collapse. For investors, they caution against complacent indexing, long-duration bonds, crypto, and overreliance on gold, and emphasize durable, cash-flowing dividend-growth businesses and measuring opportunity cost.

              00:00 Podcast Introductions

              00:20 Debtmaggedon Setup

              01:03 Apocalypse Pop Culture

              03:41 Preppers And Planning

              04:25 Five Key Questions

              05:54 Deficit Versus Debt

              07:47 How Government Borrows

              11:42 Budget Math Reality

              12:36 Interest Costs Squeeze

              17:08 Debt Versus GDP Context

              20:42 Is It Solvable

              20:49 Raise Taxes Tradeoffs

              23:18 Cut Spending Politics

              23:51 Can We Grow Out

              24:24 Can Government Cut Rates

              25:51 Why Long Rates Are Market Set

              26:44 No Magic Wand Fixes

              27:34 Bell Curve Future Scenarios

              29:23 Middle Path Japanification

              30:23 Prepper Mindset And Paralysis

              33:39 Markets Signal No Debt Bomb

              34:55 Investor Playbook Starts Here

              35:21 Beware Indexing And Bonds

              39:33 Opportunity Cost Of Cash

              43:05 Crypto And Gold Skepticism

              45:30 Dividend Growth And Real Profits

              47:58 Closing Jokes And Recap

              Links mentioned in this episode:

              • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
              • http://thebahnsengroup.com
              • 53 min
              • Convictions > Confirmity

                This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/4bFGcwT

                Trevor Cummings hosts The Thoughts on Money Podcast with Brett Bonecutter and Blaine Carver to discuss “convictions over conformity,” arguing that shallow convictions lead investors to chase hot trends and abandon strategies when results turn. They contrast conformity/coercion with conviction by comparing Prohibition (a short-lived, legally forced attempt to curb alcoholism) with Alcoholics Anonymous (a long-lasting program rooted in personal responsibility and shared beliefs). The group emphasizes understanding the “why” behind an investment philosophy to avoid short-term decision-making, noting clients who engage intellectually are calmer during market stress. They discuss how strong convictions help filter product pitches and evaluate risk versus tax benefits. Trevor also shares uncertainty around legacy/estate planning, stressing communication, avoiding formulaic planning, and recognizing multi-generational impacts of wealth transfer.

                00:00 Welcome and Setup

                00:50 Why Conviction Matters

                01:40 Conviction vs Conformity

                03:54 Clients and Market Volatility

                07:55 Prohibition as a Case Study

                13:00 AA and Personal Responsibility

                16:36 Start With Why

                17:35 Staying True to Philosophy

                20:24 Convictions Rooted in Truth

                20:57 Grandma's Ham Parable

                21:16 Ham Ends Parable

                22:18 Why Beats What

                23:34 AI Advice Pitfalls

                24:28 Legacy Planning Uncertainty

                27:05 Communication And Expectations

                31:37 Advisor Role Boundaries

                37:12 Gifting While Alive

                38:44 Generational Ripple Effects

                42:08 Fully Convinced Wrap Up

                43:07 Ratings And Next Steps

                Links mentioned in this episode:

                • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
                • http://thebahnsengroup.com
                • 46 min
                • Shortcuts, Head Starts, and Changing Lanes

                  This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/47grFFj

                  Trevor Cummings hosts the Thoughts and Money Podcast with Brett Bonecutter and Blaine Carver, discussing his blog topic “Shortcuts, Head Starts and Changing Lanes.” After attending a conference job fair for aspiring financial advisors, they critique “fast track” career programs and argue against career and investing shortcuts, emphasizing foundation-building, patience, and willingness to do early “dirty work.” They compare shortcuts to chasing penny stocks, leverage, and persuasive pitches, noting investors’ susceptibility to FOMO, media narratives, and relative performance envy. They advocate “head starts” through early saving and compounding, citing a chart showing higher ending wealth from starting at 25 versus 35 despite lower total contributions. They warn against “changing lanes” in strategies, promote seeking “good returns, not best returns,” and stress having a durable investment philosophy, accountability, and discipline to avoid ruining long-built progress quickly.

                  00:00 Welcome and Banter

                  00:54 Conference Shortcut Pitch

                  02:24 Why the Long Cut Wins

                  05:44 Dirty Work and Foundations

                  08:08 Shortcuts in Life and Money

                  10:05 Smooth Is Fast Principle

                  12:01 Penny Stocks and Red Flags

                  13:56 Why We Chase Shortcuts

                  18:08 Head Starts Beat Catching Up

                  20:05 Compounding Chart Explained

                  21:26 Discipline and Real Life Costs

                  24:08 Don’t Disrupt Compounding

                  24:40 Can You Afford It

                  26:18 Credit Changes Everything

                  27:42 Changing Lanes Trap

                  29:36 Good Returns Mindset

                  31:30 Relative Returns FOMO

                  33:21 Shallow Convictions

                  34:31 Philosophy vs Institutions

                  39:49 Time Horizon Edge

                  42:34 Reputation and Shortcuts

                  43:54 Advisor as Accountability

                  45:13 Same as Ever Lessons

                  46:06 Overconfidence and Wrap Up

                  Links mentioned in this episode:

                  • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
                  • http://thebahnsengroup.com
                  • 50 min
                  • Opting For Wisdom: Options Trading Basics

                    This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/4rAtQvD

                    Trevor Cummings, hosting with a lost voice, interviews blog author Brett Bonecutter about his COVID-era entry into the options-trading subculture after being taught by a former bond trader. Brett describes early euphoric gains from a single strategy in a favorable market that led to confirmation bias, followed by significant losses when conditions changed and he wasn’t nimble enough to adapt, noting how traders often highlight winning trades while ignoring the full sample. They explain options as time-bound contracts to buy or sell an underlying asset (calls and puts), including how contracts themselves can be traded, and warn that complex combinations can create severe or even unlimited losses, citing a widely reported case of a confused young options trader who took his life and examples like meme-stock squeezes. They contrast investing vs speculating, critique overreliance on technical analysis, and conclude options are best for professional hedging, not retail “tinkering,” despite get-rich-quick allure.

                    00:00 Welcome and Setup

                    01:07 Subcultures and Finance

                    02:32 COVID Options Rabbit Hole

                    05:32 Highlight Reels and Bias

                    08:34 Big Wins Then Losses

                    10:25 Options Explained Simply

                    15:07 Derivatives and Real Danger

                    19:28 Casino vs Investing

                    21:42 Technical Analysis Debate

                    29:30 Selling Puts Insurance Analogy

                    35:56 Get Rich Quick Temptation

                    37:19 Final Warnings and Wrap

                    Links mentioned in this episode:

                    • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
                    • http://thebahnsengroup.com
                    • 41 min
                    • Are Your Market Expectations Realistic?

                      This week's blogpost - https://bahnsen.co/4tQ4xaA

                      Trevor Cummings hosts the Thoughts of Money Podcast with article author Blaine Carver and Brett Bonecutter, discussing Carver’s piece “Stock Market Expectations.” Using examples from relationships, premarital counseling, and sports fandom, they emphasize that expectations must be communicated early, clearly, and realistically to avoid disappointment, resentment, and poor decisions. They connect this to investing by explaining how stocks can fall even on good results when expectations are “priced to perfection,” why unrealistic return targets (e.g., 20–25% annually) break financial plans, and how compounding magnifies small percentage differences.

                      00:00 Welcome to the Thoughts on Money Podcast + Introducing Blaine & Brett

                      00:21 Under-Promise, Over-Deliver: Why Expectations Drive Everything

                      00:59 Vikings Season Story: Rock-Bottom Expectations → “Best” Year

                      02:05 From Football to Finance: Priced to Perfection & Pleasant Surprises

                      04:34 Expectations in Marriage (and Advisor-Client Relationships)

                      06:55 Unrealistic Return Targets: The 20% Conversation & Compounding Reality Check

                      10:39 Long-Run vs One-Year Thinking: Annual vs Annualized + Attribution

                      12:11 Strategy Whiplash: 2025 vs 2026 Reversal & Staying the Course

                      14:35 The Expectations Gap: Investors Want 12.6%, Advisors Model 7.1%

                      17:27 Why the Gap Exists: Valuations, History, and Risk Accountability (Bitcoin Example)

                      20:19 The “Road” Matters: Normal Drawdowns, Slow Recoveries, and the Bumpy Path

                      26:17 Coping Tools: Dividends, Business Fundamentals, and the 14% Intra-Year Drawdown

                      29:52 Optimists vs Pessimists: Experience, Confirmation Bias, and Fear of Running Out

                      37:37 Closing Reflections: Gratitude vs Grumbling + Final Thoughts & How to Reach Us

                      Links mentioned in this episode:

                      • http://thoughtsonmoney.com
                      • http://thebahnsengroup.com
                      • 43 min

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