This episode originally aired on July 23, 2024.

Ricki talks with Ernesto Londoño, NYT national correspondent and writer of the book, Trippy: The Peril and Promise of Medicinal Psychedelics, about his reporting on Ayahuasca retreats in Brazil and some of the dangers posed by the unregulated drug market. They also dig into Ernesto's personal experience taking the drug, and the mental health journey that he says unfolded as a result of his first trip.

Check out Ernesto’s book, Trippy: The Peril and Promise of Medicinal Psychedelics

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