In this extended conversation Dr. Mark Hyman and Robert A.F. Thurman explore the relationship between diet, food production, the climate crisis and the rise of global pandemics.

Opening with a short history of farm policy and government food subsidies in the United States, Professor Thurman and Dr. Hyman share stories from their work over the years with students, patients, thought leaders and those concerned about the reality of climate change.

Podcast includes: a frank discussion of the industrial food, agriculture and oil lobby, a physician's perspective on stevia and artificial sweeteners and an extended overview of Buddhist medicine and the use of plant medicine, health tonics and food based remedies across traditions.

This episode concludes with a call to action for cultural creatives, venture capitalists, medical practitioners and those of influence to support positive fact based lobbying efforts and the production of a documentary film series based on Dr. Mark Hyman's best selling book "Food Fix" and informed by Al Gore's Climate Reality Project.

Dr. Hyman is a practicing family physician, a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, educator, and advocate in his field. He is the Head of Strategy and Innovation at the Cleveland Clinic Center for Functional Medicine. To learn more about the work of Dr. Mark Hyman, please visit his website: www.drhyman.com.