While Human & Holy is currently on a season break, we're revisiting some of our most meaningful conversations from seasons past.

This week's episode rerun is a conversation with Ester Zirkind, exploring the concept of Moach Shalit al Halev, the mind ruling over the heart. In a personal accounting of this idea, Ester speaks about the importance of our emotions in the equation. Using the mind to guide the heart is not about suppressing emotions. It’s a spiritual reframe: how to honor your heart while allowing your mind to gently lead the way.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Introduction: Season Break & Re-airing Beloved Episodes

01:00 – Meet Ester Zirkind: Educator, Author, and Shlucha

02:15 – What Is Moach Shalit al Halev? The Mind Governing the Heart

04:00 – Growing Up Emotional in a Culture of Emotional Restraint

05:40 – Shame Around Sensitivity: A Personal Struggle

07:00 – Discovering the Enneagram & Sefirot Connection

09:00 – Finding Her Place: Embracing Tiferes and Deep Feeling

10:30 – The Path to True Self-Understanding and Emotional Leadership

12:00 – Why Naming Feelings Is the Key to Mastering Them

13:45 – Teaching Girls to “Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway”

15:00 – The Power of Regulated Emotion in Conscious Living

16:45 – Accepting Differences: Understanding Others Through Soul Roots

18:00 – Esther’s Book: A Memoir Born of Midlife and Honesty

19:30 – Four Years of Illness, Grief, and Redemption

21:15 – The Life and Loss of Baruch Menachem Mendel

23:00 – Choosing Risk, Choosing Life: A Mother's Courage

24:45 – Battling Illness While Rebuilding Faith

26:15 – The Power of a Supportive Marriage

27:30 – Choosing Gratitude Over Bitterness

29:00 – On Missing Eretz Yisrael and Spiritual Longing

30:30 – Disappointment, Bitterness, and Faith in Divine Timing

32:00 – The Balance Between Emotion and Intuition

33:30 – How Do You Know If You’re Getting It Right?

35:00 – Give Yourself Time: Practical Emotional Guidance

36:30 – Respecting Your Process, History, and Emotions

38:00 – Grieving Honestly as a Path to Healing

39:15 – The Pain Is a Pathway: Choosing to Feel and Grow

40:20 – Final Reflections