Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

Top Performers Show Up While Others Make Excuses: Clubhouse Sesh


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In this special roundtable edition of the Next Level Agents podcast, host Kevin Kauffman brings together four industry powerhouses – Chelsea Wright, Brittini Bowers, Katie DeWitt, and Erik Kelly – for a candid conversation about what truly separates consistently successful agents from those caught in cycles of mediocrity.


This episode challenges conventional wisdom about real estate success, exposing the uncomfortable truths about why some agents perpetually struggle while others thrive regardless of market conditions. From the counterintuitive education habits of top performers to the relationship crisis plaguing modern agents, this discussion offers both philosophical insights and practical strategies for breaking through to your next level.


Key Points:

  1. The paradox of education: Why the busiest, most successful agents prioritize learning opportunities that struggling agents claim they're "too busy" to attend
  2. The relationship foundation: How many agents seek new lead sources because they've failed to build genuine connections with people already in their sphere
  3. The "comfortable complacency" trap: How achieving just enough success to maintain your current lifestyle can prevent you from reaching your true potential
  4. The authenticity challenge: Why being honest about your real motivations (including financial goals) creates more alignment than claiming "I just want to help people"
  5. The boundary mastery of top performers: How strategic unavailability and energy management enable sustainable success
  6. The "Golden Retriever Principle": Why some seemingly unlikely agents succeed through sheer enthusiasm and consistent action
  7. The living legacy perspective: How viewing daily decisions through the lens of legacy transforms your approach to business and life

  8. Whether you're a new agent seeking the right foundation or an experienced professional looking to break through your current ceiling, this episode provides the uncomfortable truths and actionable insights needed to elevate your business to its next level.


    Listen now to join the conversation that's challenging industry norms and creating a new standard for real estate excellence.


    Connect with our hosts:

    • Chelsea Wright: Instagram | Helping overachieving realtors escape burnout through coaching and keynotes
    • Brittini Bowers: Instagram | Co-leader of a top real estate team in Arizona and host of Other Ambitions podcast
    • Katie DeWitt: Instagram | Real estate coach and industry leader with experience in all facets of the business
    • Erik Kelly: Instagram | Host of Live Your Legacy podcast and relationship-focused real estate veteran


      Ready to take your real estate business to the next level? Visit Next Level Agents to learn more about our community of growth-minded professionals.


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