00:18 - Welcome Trevor Paglen

01:17 - Co-curating Zero 10 Basel

03:34 - Beyond labels and distinctions

05:36 - Blending traditional and digital audiences

08:45 - A blockchain agnostic view

11:44 - NFTs, legitimacy and cultural perception 

15:08 - How the art world has shifted 

18:00 - The collapse of the mid-tier gallery 

20:45 - NFTs as an alternative path for artists  

22:58 - Selecting artists for Zero 10 

27:00 - Why digital galleries do fairs 

31:00 - Presenting digitally first work in a physical context 

32:29 - Verse as a cultural archive for the internet 

35:00 - Art, collecting and cultural stigma

36:55 - What success looks like at Zero 10 Basel

40:04 - Programme highlights

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