We’re joined by David Jay Brown and Sarah, two explorers of consciousness, psychedelics, art, and the limits of reality itself. We dive deep into the nature of God, reality, and the mysterious dimensions accessed through substances like DMT and Ayahuasca.
David shares stories from decades of research and personal experience with psychedelics, lucid dreaming, and consciousness studies, including his first LSD trip, how it led to spiritual awakening, and his views on the evolution of humanity. Sarah adds artistic and spiritual perspectives on visionary states, VR art, and the archetypes found in altered states.
We also discuss their book “The Illustrated Field Guide to DMT Entities”, exploring machine elves, jesters, light beings, and more. From simulation theory to evolutionary purpose, from trauma healing to political leadership, this is a rich, open conversation for anyone curious about the mind, mystery, and magic of consciousness.
In this episode, we discussed:
0:00 Intro
2:12 David’s origin story: dreams, meditation, LSD, and first lucid dreams
3:52 Was it curiosity or a calling into psychedelics?
7:35 David’s first LSD trip — terror, ego death, bliss, and revelation
10:11 Ram Dass, Alan Watts, and the start of a spiritual journey
13:33 Sarah’s view: spiritual curiosity, Gnosticism, simulation theory
15:33 Psychedelic experiences as ego dissolving and humbling
18:18 “25 DMT Entities” — how the book came to life
21:04 Common DMT entities: machine elves, jesters, aliens, light beings
25:10 Do different people attract different entities? Role of expectation
28:01 Importance of shamanic integrity in ayahuasca ceremonies
31:08 Are we in the 4th or 5th dimension during these experiences?
35:04 What is DMT really? Is it a communication tool?
38:14 David’s take: DMT is the greatest mystery in nature
41:11 DMT’s purpose — “a wink from the universe”
43:37 Evolution and psychedelics — activating future brain circuits
48:15 Thoughts on the Stoned Ape Theory, did mushrooms accelerate human evolution?
51:03 Psychedelics as turning points in life trajectories
52:06 Ancient civilizations, stars, consciousness, and the spiritual role of psychedelics
54:08 What David learned from Terence McKenna
56:28 Getting stoned with Terence, and struggling to keep up!
57:54 Psychedelics and the articulation of mystical insight
1:00:56 Is consciousness fundamental or a byproduct of the brain?
1:04:40 Should politicians have to do Ayahuasca? (Graham Hancock’s idea)
1:07:06 What Ayahuasca taught David and Sarah
1:08:53 Healing childhood trauma through Ayahuasca
1:10:08 Witnessing the goddess and the hyperreal
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