Chris and Andy talk about some of the troubles at Netflix and some of the belt-tightening the company is doing (1:00). Then they talk about the new detective series ‘Under the Banner of Heaven’ (15:39) and the first episode of ‘We Own This City’ (20:41), before Chris is joined by 'Slow Horses’ author Mick Herron to talk about about the television adaptation of his book (43:08).

Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald

Guest: Mick Herron

Producer: Kaya McMullen

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