Part 1:
A few weeks ago, the team received about 500 new documents in the Keyes case. Josh is here to chat about them, where they're taking us, and what season 7 is starting to look like.

Part 2:
Hi, this is Josh. And until today, I knew essentially nothing about Karen Read, her trials, the evidence, the news. After hearing a few interesting tidbits over the weekend, I decided to peek in and see what everyone's been talking about. So, today, I watched all five parts of the (stupidly named) HBO docuseries A Body in the Snow: The Karen Read Trial. And I recorded my thoughts just for you, between each episode.

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Josh gives listeners a sneak peek at season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**.  
Then we cover a NAMUS-45 case that has increasingly interested the team. A young girl disappears on a short walk to her house. In the following years, questions are raised about her home life, and a kidnapper is apprehended nearby.

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Written and researched by Shana Wilensky. 
Edited and produced by Josh Hallmark.

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Last week, Tim, Lance, Greg, and Lou announced a new lead in the Brianna Maitland case. So, Josh sat down to get the new information, discuss its potential implications, and see how it's moving the investigation into Brianna's disappearance forward.

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This past April, Josh sat down with Eva Pilgrim, the co-anchor of GMA3 and ABC’s senior national correspondent, to discuss her new investigative podcast What Happened to Holly Bobo. Listeners may recall that Holly Bobo’s name and image were found on Israel Keyes’s computer, as one of the NAMUS-45. So, Eva and Josh discussed the case, her investigation, Keyes, what the public got wrong, and the local impacts of this story.

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As we prepare for season 7 of our investigation into Israel Keyes, we look back at some of the potential victims we've covered throughout the series and provide case updates and classification updates.

This episode covers the following cases:
• Kellisue Ackernecht 
• Jack Coloney
• Suzy Lyall
• John Hannemann
• Marble Arvidson
• Nancy Reagey  
• Maura Murray
• Brianna Maitland
• Karen Adams
• Bryan Gomez
• Donnie Messier
• Richard Petrone
• Danielle Imbo

Written, Researched, Edited, and Produced by Josh Hallmark.

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Sources include: 

• https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/police-search-new-lead-kellisue-ackernecht-s-2008-20019747.php

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When a young girl goes missing under mysterious circumstances, a man claiming to be her father quickly becomes the prime suspect in her disappearance. Lies, theft, strange behavior, and murky relationships coalesce with a suicide in a National Park and more questions than answers. A look into why this case ended up on Israel Keyes's computer highlights a suspicious trip, a weird time in his life, and a missing person's case Josh just can't shake.  

Written and Researched by Shana Wilensky and Josh Hallmark.
Edited and Produced by Josh Hallmark. 

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Sources include: 

• For The Love of Reachelle
• Reachelle Marie Smith – The Charley Project
• Episode 081: Reachelle Marie Smith – Bite-Sized Crime
• Hunting at Upper Souris National Wildlife Refuge | FWS.gov
• Reachelle Smith - Amber Alert is issued - Newspapers.com™
• Alert: Cowen may be headed to Kansas - Newspapers.com™
• Girl still missing; man dead - Newspapers.com™
• Missing: Volunteers continue search - Newspapers.com™
• Search covers refuge - Newspapers.com™
• Case haunts retiring police chief - Newspapers.com™
• Officers volunteering their off-duty time to search - Newspapers.com™
• Riders comb ditches in search - Newspapers.com™
• Family still hopes child can be found - Newspapers.com™
• Dog handler continuing search for Reachelle Smith - Newspapers.com™
• Year later, mother still has hope for daughter - Newspapers.com™
• Police close cold case - Newspapers.com™
• Minot police: “Compelling evidence” points to murder of Minot 3-year-old in 2006 | KX NEWS
• CNN.com - Transcripts
  
  Music by: 
  Alex Preston, 9 Moons, Lightless Voids, The Construct of Time

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In April, Josh traveled to Texas and Louisiana for research. Each leg of that trip was thoroughly documented and will become individual Travelogue video episodes, running monthly on Patreon. Enjoy the audio from his day in the Dallas area, traveling to Godley, Glen Rose, Stephenville, Aledo, and Azle. 

Future Episodes:
June: Lufkin
July: New Orleans
August: Washington state

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In the second season premiere, Josh digs into two years of research into the lives and crimes of Steven Lorenzo and Scott Schweickert, in hopes of identifying other victims. A list of 25 missing and murdered men, across multiple jursidctions, launches a deep-dive investigation that examines the lives of these 25 men, Lorenzo & Schweickert, other area serial killers, intersectionality, homophobia, politics, and more. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark 

Featuring: 
Albert Perkins 

Resources: 

• NAMUS.gov  
• CharleyProject.org
• The Tampa Bay Times  
• The Tampa Tribune  

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Music by: Tamuz Dekel, Grissly Bill, and Yehezkel Raz  
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The Pulitzer Prize-winning podcast returns for its second season! 

Seven years after his release from prison, former juvenile lifer Luis "Suave" Gonzalez seems to be thriving. His career has taken off, he’s in a committed relationship and he’s received public recognition after telling his story on the podcast. Suave always thought once he was out of prison and found stability in his new life, he would finally feel truly free. But freedom, it turns out, is more complicated than it seems. "Suave" is a deeply intimate portrait of a man battling the lingering trauma of incarceration and his search for happiness in the outside world after a near-lifetime in prison. In this season we explore the long shadow of prison.

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New Tour Dates:
4/10/2025 | Dallas, TX at Elm & Good at The Kimpton Pittman Hotel (6pm - 8pm)
4/14/2025 | New Orleans, LA at The Paradise Lounge at Hotel St. Vincent (530pm - 730pm)
These are both informal happy hours. 

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