Carolina and Devin are joined by New York Times Bestselling author Ann Leary (some relation) to discuss her new novel THE FOUNDLING (out now in stores and online)! They reminisce on the years when women either got institutionalized in asylums for having PMS (free socks!) or lived without rights as wards of their fathers and husbands. On the topic of bad husbands - the women then jump into a discussion of the true crime phenomenon THE STAIRCASE. 

Alert: STAIRCASE SPOILERS AHEAD! 

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Devin and Carolina cover the very polarizing Kravis wedding outfits and then jump into the beautiful, tragic, pornographic, confusing and sometimes… boring world of Sally Rooney adaptations. Why can’t Frances make friends with someone she hasn’t slept with? What’s the difference between an awkward wombat and an awkward shivering deer in the woods (hint: one is hot)? Is Joe Alwyn a serial killer and did he play Billy Bob Thornton in a movie? Why can’t anyone in these shows be funny? These and many more questions are answered in this episode. 

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Carolina and Devin Katch Up with the Kardashians and discuss the process of leaving behind Scott Disick, while positively salivating over Travis Barker asking Kourtney what he should order for dinner. Then they break down the iconic stock character: The Manic Pixie Dream Girl. Whether it was Natalie Portman not changing our lives with The Shins, Kirsten Dunst being a happy flight attendant who created scavenger maps, or orphan Annie tap dancing with a rich stranger, these women taught us that to be loved we needed strong quirk, no boundaries, and to go fully off our meds.

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The women get together to cover Bachelorette parties that turn into spiritual breakthroughs and Kim Kardashian messing with the dead. Then Devin tells us a story about a lil murder in a town called Poughkeepsie, NY. Carolina has some disturbing physical similarities to the murderer, except she’s single and the murderer had 3 partners. The mystery includes chat rooms, sex at the water tower, and a turd (soul patch) on a man’s chin. TRIGGER WARNING: Guns, murder, and country music. 

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Devin and Carolina discuss Listener’s Topics such as: The perils and delights of age gaps, cutting toxic family members out of your life, Carolina’s obsession with the Glee soundtrack in 2010 and more. They also cover the panic of a first date, and how to remember you are not The Chosen but The Chooser. That’s a real word!

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Carolina and Devin talk for the first time in a week and it’s a rollercoaster of a conversation that starts with a tribute to Vanessa Lachey's iconic lines from Love is Blind. Carolina then discusses her isolation in a London hotel room and her attempt to turn a work thing into a true love thing. Devin talks about her journey to Dawson’s Creek and makes an apology for some misguided The Ultimatum comments, which leads her to accidentally shade Mark Cuban. Plus, a much needed celebration of Ashley and Micheal Darby’s official separation! 

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Devin is joined by guest cohost LESLIE TYNIK to discuss the morally corrupt, chaotic sequel to Love is Blind - Netflix’s The Ultimatum. They cover everything from the couple intros and the two proposals heard round the world, to the changeover, to Madilyn’s hate-lust for Colby and his cowboy hat, to Rae’s search for a way out, and of course April’s third person narration. They also debate which of these traumatized couples will make it in the long run and break down the pros and cons of real ultimatums in relationships. Plus, a quick Summer House and Survivor check-in! 

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We will be back next week, enjoy this re-release episode of True Romance! Rate, review, and subscribe to the podcast here.

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Devin and Carolina discuss the process of recovering from a breakup and the process of accepting Demi Lovato’s engagement.

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The classic love story: Woman meets disgusting man who steals her money. The twist? She makes tree nut cheese. Devin and Carolina talk the red flag of eating only raw food, setting up the iconic Hilaria Baldwin and Alec Baldwin only to be rewarded with a con artist who draws stick figures, and the confusion between fear and love. They also discuss dating multiple people at once (revolutionary) and how doing puzzles is a humble brag that you aren’t worried about having sex.

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Devin reviews Deep Water, the vehicle that gave us the Affleck/de Armas fling that got us through some tough times. Then, Devin and Carolina commence their final (for real this time) discussion of Love is Blind Season 2! They cover the bachelor and bachelorette parties, the quandary of what men do for fun, how anyone could “trust the process” of the pods, the roller coaster of Danielle’s self-sabotaging behavior, the weddings, and THAT ICONIC MOMENT WHERE DEEPTI LEAVES SHAKE! Finally, they touch on the reunion and Shake’s attempts to be the Spencer Pratt of this universe, Kyle’s new piercings, and why Vanessa Lachey needs some Andy Cohen lessons. 

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