This week, Jen is joined by Killian Sunderman to trial taking over Karla's position as co-host. He was great but Karla's quite a big stakeholder in the podcast so we figured it'd be a bit of a shit show logistically, so she'll have to come back next week. Meanwhile, please enjoy this episode where Killian tells us about his vanning experiences of the last few weeks, with a few random subjects thrown in for good measure.

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