Amanda Ripley is the Co-Host of the Slate podcast How-To and is the best-selling author of High Conflict: Why We Get Trapped and How We & The Unthinkable.' This book was so well researched and easy to read and so interesting that in all of her research, it pretty much aligns with my experience. This is a fascinating conversation and helps to identify patterns characteristic of high conflict. She gave practical advice on how we can take steps ourselves to lower the temperature, and realize there is complexity in every situation.  When people operate out of All or nothing/ us vs them thinking, polarization takes place. Curiosity, respect, and listening to each other with the goal of reaching a solution work well. We need to come together to do real problem solving- NOW!

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