By now, everyone has told us how the war on drugs has failed so miserably. Drug advocates have convinced lawmakers and voters in some states that our only way out of our drug problems is by legalizing drugs. Some areas of the country have adopted harm reduction policies to allow for illegal or illicit drug-related behavior in order to minimize risks to the greater communities. Yet clearly those strategies leave much to be desired with drug overdose fatalities at all-time highs across America.

What is the answer? That is the question our Policing Matters host Jim Dudley poses to this week’s guest, district attorney Brian Surber, who has prosecuted thousands of narcotics cases and recently authored Injustice for All: The (Familiar) Fallacies of Criminal Justice Reform.