Rob Avis—designer, educator, and founder of 5th World—is using cutting-edge technology to transform how we design resilient and abundant landscapes. In this episode, Rob shares how his journey from petroleum engineer to permaculture leader inspired the creation of 5th World, a company that merges data intelligence with ecological design.

After working with thousands of students and designing hundreds of properties, Rob saw a major challenge: critical site data—such as climate patterns, property timeline scans, ecosystem services, topography, soils, hydrology, solar exposure, and zoning—was expensive and difficult to access. With 5th World, that information, which once cost tens of thousands of dollars, is now available at a fraction of the price.

This conversation explores:

• Why poor site planning can lead to costly mistakes and long-term problems.
• How data-driven insights can unlock better design decisions and regenerative lifestyles.
• The path to creating landscapes that are resilient, abundant, and regenerative.
• Rob’s vision for bringing ecological design into the mainstream.

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This podcast isn’t just about ideas—it’s about action. From these conversations, two organizations have emerged to bring regenerative real estate to life:

Latitude Regenerative Real Estate is the world’s first regenerative-focused real estate brokerage, dedicated to aligning values-driven buyers and sellers. With a strong presence in the Pacific Northwest and Great Lakes regions, Latitude also supports purpose-driven developments across North America through strategic marketing and branding services. If you're looking to buy, sell, or amplify a regenerative project, Latitude is your trusted partner.

Hamlet Capital is an investment and development firm committed to building resilient communities rooted in working farms. If you’re developing an agrihood or conservation community, we’d love to hear from you. Together, we can turn visionary ideas into thriving, place-based investments.