The Rodcast - Property, Business, Investment

Unlocking Growth


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Adam Lawrence Joined Rod to discuss how Small Property Investment Businesses can grow in todays environment.
Property Investment Business Scaling Challenges

Rod and Adam discussed the challenges of scaling a property investment business in the current regulatory environment. They highlighted the need for property investors to professionalize their operations, moving beyond small-scale "mum and pop" landlord approaches. Adam emphasised that the 2015 budget marked a pivotal moment where property investment became more of an obligation than an option due to increased regulations and tax considerations. The conversation also touched on the importance of using limited companies for protection and the challenges of managing properties in personal names versus companies.


De-Risking Strategies for Business Growth

Rod discussed the importance of de-risking while growing, emphasising that it's not a binary choice between growth and risk reduction. He highlighted key metrics to monitor, such as weighted costs of debt, burn rates, and trigger events, which can help identify potential issues before they impact the business. Adam agreed, stressing that there's no single silver-bullet metric and that a balanced scorecard approach, combining both quantitative and qualitative metrics, is essential for effective measurement and decision-making.


Growth and Legacy Planning Principles

Adam discussed the importance of balancing growth with legacy planning, emphasising that excessive growth without proper structure can create unmanageable situations after one's death. He introduced the concept of "Your price, my terms" as a fundamental principle for deals, and highlighted the importance of risk-adjusted returns using the Sharpe ratio. Adam also mentioned the need to consider payment reliability over just focusing on high returns.


Investment Metrics and Timing Analysis

Rod discussed the importance of considering time and value when evaluating investment metrics, emphasising that returns should not only focus on percentage rates but also on the actual amount and timing of returns. He highlighted the need to account for holding costs, refurbishment expenses, and the timeline of income generation in investment deals, particularly in scenarios like buy-refurbish-refinance-rent strategies. Rod also noted that while cash flow is often emphasised, many returns come from capital appreciation, whether driven by market or skill factors.


Welsh Property Investment Post-Brexit

Adam shared his experience investing in Welsh property after the Brexit referendum, explaining his initial positive outlook based on market conditions and geographical arbitrage opportunities. He noted that Wales significantly outperformed expectations with over 30% growth during COVID, but concluded that the market had reached its peak and was now performing similarly to other regions. Rod agreed with Adam's approach, emphasising the importance of treating property investments as businesses rather than emotional assets and considering timeframes when making buy, sell, or hold decisions.


Property Portfolio Management Workshop

Adam and Rod discussed an upcoming workshop on October 1st 2025 in Blackfriars, London. Adam explained that the workshop focuses on providing interactive, in-depth content on property portfolio management and scaling safely, aimed at more established businesses rather than beginners. Rod mentioned that over half the 40 available spots have been sold, and Adam recommended upgrading to the VIP dinner ticket for personalised advice and one-on-one discussions. For information on the event click here https://www.tickettailor.com/events/boardroomclubconsultingltd/1776525


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