Ohio State inked Ryan Day to a massive deal, and Brian Hartline was promoted to OC. Is a 2026 natty repeat in progress? Chris Vannini and Damien Harris react to both deals, and they brainstorm potential DC candidates for OSU. Later, the guys discuss possible new rule changes coming to college football. They also share their top three ACC and Big 12 games after both conferences' schedules released. Before clocking out, the guys dicsuss dynasties ahead of the Super Bowl with the Chiefs and Eagles.

Rundown:

- NBA's Luka Doncic trade explained in CFB terms (2:15)

- OSU extends Ryan Day & promoted Brian Hartline -- will it work? (6:30)

- Potentional OSU DC coordinators (17:00)

- New fake injury rules? (20:30)

- Top 3 ACC/Big 12 games of 2025 (26:30)

- Why do people hate dynasties? (37:00)

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Get in, losers, we're trading college football program stock. In Bear or Bull, one of our favorite shows, David, Chris, and Damien buy and sell team stocks with Mad Money-esque sound effects. Are we buying Texas with Arch Manning at the helm? Why should you sell Michigan and Arizona State? Are people sleeping on Oregon and Colorado?

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Which college football programs aced or flunked their coaching cylce hires? David Ubben, Chris Vannini, and Bruce Feldman distribute coaching cycle report cards to North Carolina, UCF, West Virginia, Purdue, and more schools.

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Penn State pryed DC Jim Knowles away from Ohio State. Are the Nittany Lions gearing up for an OSU and Michigan-esque championship run in 2025? David, Chris, and Damien discuss Knowles leaving Columbus, and what it means for PSU, OSU, and the rest of the country. The Jeremiah Smith tampering news isn't surprising. What is surprising is coaches still bellyaching after all this time. Plus, the Buckeyes return some key players. Later, the guys chat about USC spending $1M/season on GM Chad Bowden. How will he help the Trojans, and how does the GM role function in CFB? Plus, we answer some of your mailbag questions.

Rundown:

- Jim Knowles to Penn State (2:00)

- Will the coaching carousel spin again? (8:45)

- Tampering? In 2025? Really? (11:15)

- Major contributors returning to Ohio State (23:00)

- Will USC's new GM save the program? (26:30)

- Are coaching 'godfather' contracts dead? via Eric W. (35:00)

- Favorite games, moments from 2024 via Quintin M. (39:00)

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What did we learn about college football in 2024 that can be applied to 2025 and beyond? David Ubben, Chris Vannini, and Damien Harris share three lessons each that they learned this past season. From elite QBs being gratuitous to the SEC media machine sputtering, the guys proffer up their takeaways.

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Chris ranks all 134 college football teams weekly throughout the regular season. He's a madman, and he ranked every team for the last time for the 2024-2025 season. He and David compare his final rankings to his preseason ones, and the two discuss where Chris went wrong in his rankings. Plus, who rose and fell the most? Later, the guys take a look at the final AP and Coaches' Polls. Barry Odom is his own hype man. Lastly, why did the national championship game's draw so few eyes?

Rundown:

- 134 rankings recap: Preseason expectations vs reality (4:45)

- Final AP Poll reaction (29:30)

- Coaches' Poll reaction (34:15)

- Ohio State-Notre Dame draws low viewership, but why? (42:00)

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Ohio State put a bow on the 2024 college football season, but where do they rank going into 2025? David and Chris welcome Stew Mandel to Until Saturday to react and discuss his way-too-early top-25 ranking. Where does Arch Manning's Texas fall? Are Notre Dame and OSU top-3 teams? How about Michigan, Penn State, Georgia, and Alabama?

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Ohio State beat Notre Dame to win the College Football Playoff national championship, the first of the 12-team era. David Ubben, Chris Vannini, and Damien Harris react to the Ryan Day's legacy, the Buckeyes' place among the all-time greats, Notre Dame's rally & future, the Big Ten overtaking the SEC, and the end of superteams. Plus, what did we make of the first-ever 12-team field?

Rundown:

- Ohio State beats Notre Dame (:05)

- Notre Dame hat tip (7:00)

- Ryan Day's place in CFB (8:00)

- Where OSU ranks among all-time teams (18:00)

- The last superteam (24:00)

- The Big Ten plants its flag (27:15)

- Did the 12-team CFP work? (33:10)

- Kirk Herbstreit postgame comments (41:30)

- Despite the hate, the game was still the game (44:45)

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ONE. MORE. SLEEP. Until Ohio State and Notre Dame square off in the College Football Playoff national championship. David, Chris, and Damien are together IN PERSON for the first time in Atlanta. They share their final thoughts going into Monday with help from ESPN's Chris Fowler and Molly McGrath as well as OSU RB Quinshon Judkins and competitive eating superstar, Joey Chestnut.

Rundown:

- CFP Natty Media Day takeaways (1:00)

- Chris Fowler joins the show (10:15)

- Molly McGrath joins the show (21:15)

- Quinshon Judkins joins the show (32:15)

- Joey Chestnut joins the show (41:45)

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Ohio State and Notre Dame face off in the National Championship on Monday. Before the 2024-2025 season finale, David, Chris, and Damien preview the last matchup in the first-ever 12-team College Football Playoffs. How will the Irish defend Jeremiah Smith? Can ND's piecemealed offensive line keep Riley Leonard clean? How will we remember the champion of the first 12-team CFP? Plus, we answer your natty questions and react to CFB26 being announced.

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